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<blockquote data-quote="Dorian_Grey" data-source="post: 7148082" data-attributes="member: 6801878"><p>This. x1,000 times this. I stopped using the realms because of this exact type of person. No matter how many times you say "This is a non-canon game" or "Anything in the books didn't happen" you will always get someone (or more than one) who will say "But... in the books" It's EXHAUSTING. It's easier to just say "You have entered the Kingdom of the Happy Forest" and wing it then it is to try to go though all the necessary mental aerobics necessary to deal with a realmophile.</p><p></p><p>One of the reasons I switched to Mystara in the mid 90s was because none of my players knew anything about it so I was able to use Karameikos: Kingdom of Adventure and enjoy the benefits of a pre-made campaign setting without the annoyance of the realms. </p><p></p><p>Finally, as a note someone mentioned Dragonlance. I was in a run through of the various modules that track the books. The DM started by stating: "The heroes of the lance and other aspects of the book are not going to be what happens here. YOU are the heroes of the lance... assuming you find the dragonlance and survive." Everyone at the table was a huge DL fan. We had all read the books back to back (Dragons of Autumn Twilight was the first major chapter book I ever read actually at the age of 7).</p><p></p><p>Not a single person said to the DM "But... in the books". Now this is anecdotal of course. It's not a pattern, it's not an indepth study. But it is why I hate the realms and will never ever play them, and one of the key things driving me back to older editions of the game since the realms is taking over every aspect of 5th edition. 5th Edition could have been named D&D: FR Edition. Now, if you like the realms, and love all the lore - that's awesome! Congrats! If you don't though, it does put a damper on things. Thankfully, there is enough other material out there for me to enjoy <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dorian_Grey, post: 7148082, member: 6801878"] This. x1,000 times this. I stopped using the realms because of this exact type of person. No matter how many times you say "This is a non-canon game" or "Anything in the books didn't happen" you will always get someone (or more than one) who will say "But... in the books" It's EXHAUSTING. It's easier to just say "You have entered the Kingdom of the Happy Forest" and wing it then it is to try to go though all the necessary mental aerobics necessary to deal with a realmophile. One of the reasons I switched to Mystara in the mid 90s was because none of my players knew anything about it so I was able to use Karameikos: Kingdom of Adventure and enjoy the benefits of a pre-made campaign setting without the annoyance of the realms. Finally, as a note someone mentioned Dragonlance. I was in a run through of the various modules that track the books. The DM started by stating: "The heroes of the lance and other aspects of the book are not going to be what happens here. YOU are the heroes of the lance... assuming you find the dragonlance and survive." Everyone at the table was a huge DL fan. We had all read the books back to back (Dragons of Autumn Twilight was the first major chapter book I ever read actually at the age of 7). Not a single person said to the DM "But... in the books". Now this is anecdotal of course. It's not a pattern, it's not an indepth study. But it is why I hate the realms and will never ever play them, and one of the key things driving me back to older editions of the game since the realms is taking over every aspect of 5th edition. 5th Edition could have been named D&D: FR Edition. Now, if you like the realms, and love all the lore - that's awesome! Congrats! If you don't though, it does put a damper on things. Thankfully, there is enough other material out there for me to enjoy :) [/QUOTE]
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