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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7149878" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Where to begin here… hmm.Powerful undead you say? Like, Liches who made a pact with Orcus to be created? And Bodaks are relatively powerful as well at CR 6, plus the Bodak entry mentions these Hierophnts of Annihilation that worshipped Orcus and are immensely powerful (equal to Balors according to Volos) and can create more Bodaks. Also, plenty of necromancers who worship Orcus and serve him. Autumn is the season of the harvest, this would clearly belong to Chauntea. Necromancy spells, being magic, would be the domain of Mystra. The Dead belong to Kelemvor if memory serves. But frankly, this is a little moot because I think this sums up my thoughts pretty well. Who’s Myrkul? I can’t say I’ve ever heard of him before. Turns out he is in the PHB, so I have at least read the name before. You say Orcus is small potatoes compared to him, but in terms of name recognition Orcus is top tier.You can say Gods are gods because they are gods and they have a lot of worshippers because they are gods, but that just flows into a circle of logic that never ends. You say Orcus is less limited than Myrkul, but Orcus is the Demon Prince of Undeath, I can’t think of anything he does that does not involve the Undead in one manner or the other. Could he grow a garden of roses? I guess so, but he’s more interested in creating undead and spreading his influence through his cult and more undead and demons. You say Orcus is less powerful, but frankly how so? What can’t he do that Myrkul can? What adventuring? He Gates in front of Orcus’s Castle, blows it up, maybe summons Orcus in front of him and rips him apart like a wet paper bag. It’ll take three minutes tops, and that’s if he doesn’t just summon Orcus to him and rip him apart and leave the castle alone.That’s how powerful he is according to you. And we know for a fact the Deities of the Forgotten Realms at least can go and do a lot of stuff. Sleeping with mortals or going and getting into arguments with each other, maybe instead of going and having a quickie they pop down and kill a demon lord occasionally. I mean, Infinite Demons with Finite Devils, both with Demon Lords and Archdevils vs Infinite Angels with Solars and Beings of such immense power they could destroy the strongest of the Demon Lords and Archdevils with but a thought. This equation leads to a world of good and light that is rarely in actual danger from the forces of darkness, because the light can always win as long as they get the gods to actually do something instead of saying “meh, all my worshippers dying isn’t my problem” I didn’t miss any, I just didn’t mention those that had nothing to do with the point. Her having the spider portfolio means nothing towards he potential to take over the Abyss, while Evil and Chaos do. Besides, it’s not like there are greater and lesser portfolios, they are all equally important.</blockquote>

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