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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7160960" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>What have you got in mind?</p><p></p><p>There are magicians. And demons. But where are the gods? (I mean, I know that people believe in them and worship them. But where do they manifest in the stories?)</p><p></p><p>They're "aliens". (For lack of a better word.)</p><p></p><p>I can't say that I really get HPL and his relationship to science: his obsessions about biology/inheritance, and about relativity, are fairly typical for his time, but his framing of them as <em>cosmic horror</em> isn't something I can easily get my head around. (I find Bertrand Russell's more philosophical discussions of relativity easier to follow, for instance.)</p><p></p><p>But cosmic horror is not nothing if atheistic - its personification of cosmic indifference and unknowability is weird (to me), and I think a bit self-contradictory, but those personae aren't meant to be gods. Maybe one could say they're "anti-gods" - but that's not to say they're demons. Quite the opposite - demons <em>validate</em> humanity by caring about human lives and human sin; whereas the "old ones" of cosmic horror are indifferent to human concerns.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 7160960, member: 42582"] What have you got in mind? There are magicians. And demons. But where are the gods? (I mean, I know that people believe in them and worship them. But where do they manifest in the stories?) They're "aliens". (For lack of a better word.) I can't say that I really get HPL and his relationship to science: his obsessions about biology/inheritance, and about relativity, are fairly typical for his time, but his framing of them as [I]cosmic horror[/I] isn't something I can easily get my head around. (I find Bertrand Russell's more philosophical discussions of relativity easier to follow, for instance.) But cosmic horror is not nothing if atheistic - its personification of cosmic indifference and unknowability is weird (to me), and I think a bit self-contradictory, but those personae aren't meant to be gods. Maybe one could say they're "anti-gods" - but that's not to say they're demons. Quite the opposite - demons [I]validate[/I] humanity by caring about human lives and human sin; whereas the "old ones" of cosmic horror are indifferent to human concerns. [/QUOTE]
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