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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7161690" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>So, in your definition, the only way something can be considered a god, and a setting considered polytheistic, is if the gods actually physically manifest in some way? </p><p></p><p>Ok, I suppose that explains why I really don't understand your point. I'm more of the mind that if you have multiple faiths in a setting, then it's polytheistic. Whether those faiths are "right" or not doesn't really matter. So, yup, the real world is polytheistic.</p><p></p><p>Hyboria has multiple entities that are specifically referred to as gods - Crom, Set, Mitra (sp), and others. That they are far away and don't have D&D style spell casting clerics doesn't really enter into it AFAIC. The idea that there is a difference between cleric and wizard is a purely D&D artifact. Thulsa Doom is a worshipper of Set. That he's a "magician" doesn't really matter. Conan worships Crom. Thus, the setting is polytheistic. </p><p></p><p>The Great Old Ones are worshipped by all sorts of beings and are certainly defined as gods in D&D. So, the idea that HPL is somehow monotheistic is hardly a controversial point. Plus, as an added bonus, they are described AS gods and referred to as such in HPL. Thus, they are gods and the setting is polytheistic.</p><p></p><p>Again, you're playing silly buggers here [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION]. You're ignoring anything in the actual text of the works that doesn't support your point. Crom is a GOD in Hyboria. He's described as such. He's specifically CALLED a god. So is Set. So is Mitra. </p><p></p><p>There is no mono-theism in Conan. And, on the larger point, I'll tell you what. You name a monotheistic fantasy setting, and I'll name a polytheistic one. We'll see who runs out first. Polytheism is pretty well grounded in the genre and has been since day 1. </p><p></p><p>Heck, it's so well grounded that it actually gets satirized. There's a reason that you have writers like Terry Pratchett with his Cori Celesti home of the gods (Dunmanifestin). If monotheism was such a common point in fantasy, you wouldn't have writers making fun of polytheism.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and let's not forget. Alignment in D&D is pulled straight out of Moorcock. The whole Law vs Chaos thing. Again, Moorcock's settings are most certainly not monotheistic. Polytheism is part and parcel of the whole alignment system where you have cosmic teams pushing for different views of the cosmos.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7161690, member: 22779"] So, in your definition, the only way something can be considered a god, and a setting considered polytheistic, is if the gods actually physically manifest in some way? Ok, I suppose that explains why I really don't understand your point. I'm more of the mind that if you have multiple faiths in a setting, then it's polytheistic. Whether those faiths are "right" or not doesn't really matter. So, yup, the real world is polytheistic. Hyboria has multiple entities that are specifically referred to as gods - Crom, Set, Mitra (sp), and others. That they are far away and don't have D&D style spell casting clerics doesn't really enter into it AFAIC. The idea that there is a difference between cleric and wizard is a purely D&D artifact. Thulsa Doom is a worshipper of Set. That he's a "magician" doesn't really matter. Conan worships Crom. Thus, the setting is polytheistic. The Great Old Ones are worshipped by all sorts of beings and are certainly defined as gods in D&D. So, the idea that HPL is somehow monotheistic is hardly a controversial point. Plus, as an added bonus, they are described AS gods and referred to as such in HPL. Thus, they are gods and the setting is polytheistic. Again, you're playing silly buggers here [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION]. You're ignoring anything in the actual text of the works that doesn't support your point. Crom is a GOD in Hyboria. He's described as such. He's specifically CALLED a god. So is Set. So is Mitra. There is no mono-theism in Conan. And, on the larger point, I'll tell you what. You name a monotheistic fantasy setting, and I'll name a polytheistic one. We'll see who runs out first. Polytheism is pretty well grounded in the genre and has been since day 1. Heck, it's so well grounded that it actually gets satirized. There's a reason that you have writers like Terry Pratchett with his Cori Celesti home of the gods (Dunmanifestin). If monotheism was such a common point in fantasy, you wouldn't have writers making fun of polytheism. Oh, and let's not forget. Alignment in D&D is pulled straight out of Moorcock. The whole Law vs Chaos thing. Again, Moorcock's settings are most certainly not monotheistic. Polytheism is part and parcel of the whole alignment system where you have cosmic teams pushing for different views of the cosmos. [/QUOTE]
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