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<blockquote data-quote="Ilbranteloth" data-source="post: 7163095" data-attributes="member: 6778044"><p>Well, I said D&D setting, perhaps I should have said published D&D setting. I don't recall any settings offhand where a cleric wasn't dedicated to a specific deity, rather than a group of deities. </p><p></p><p>I think that 5e has tried to streamline and simplify things, particularly in the PHB. Part of that was to use the idea of domains, which could be viewed as a simplification of the spheres that deities granted in 2e. So it does have language elsewhere, in the appendix and DMG that references other religious constructs. </p><p></p><p>Part of the reasoning, I think, is just that they did a lot of playtesting and questionnaires and probably found that the majority of people considered a cleric a religious class dedicated to a single god. Also, the fluff text is more substantial than the AD&D PHB, and decided not to write paragraphs like these:</p><p></p><p>"As you create a cleric, the most important question is to consider which deity, or deities, or philosophy, or perhaps a world in which gods don't exist and a cleric's abilities aren't tied to the gods, nothing to serve, and what principles you want your character to embody. Appendix B includes many of the gods of the multiverse, unless your DM doesn't have gods in their campaign, in which case these gods don't exist. Check with your DM to learn which deities are in your campaign, if any.</p><p>Once you've chosen a deity, or deities, or philosophy, or nothing, consider your cleric's relationship to that god, or gods, or philosophy, or nothing. Did you enter this service willingly? Or did the god, or gods, or philosophy, or nothing, choose you, impelling you into service with no regard for your wishes? How to the temple priests of your faith regard you: as a champion or troublemaker? Unless you worship nothing and there are no temples, or priests. What are your ultimate goals? Does your deity, or deities, or philosophy, or nothing have a special task in mind for you? Or are you striving to prove yourself worthy of a great quest?"</p><p></p><p>Another solution, used by <em>Adventures in Middle Earth</em>, is to not have religion or clerics. They do have a healer class. Which is needed because their Journey Phase doesn't allow long rests, and aside from some herbal remedies that also provide healing, adventurer's wouldn't last very long. Of course, it was based on a source that didn't speak of religion much, or clerics at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ilbranteloth, post: 7163095, member: 6778044"] Well, I said D&D setting, perhaps I should have said published D&D setting. I don't recall any settings offhand where a cleric wasn't dedicated to a specific deity, rather than a group of deities. I think that 5e has tried to streamline and simplify things, particularly in the PHB. Part of that was to use the idea of domains, which could be viewed as a simplification of the spheres that deities granted in 2e. So it does have language elsewhere, in the appendix and DMG that references other religious constructs. Part of the reasoning, I think, is just that they did a lot of playtesting and questionnaires and probably found that the majority of people considered a cleric a religious class dedicated to a single god. Also, the fluff text is more substantial than the AD&D PHB, and decided not to write paragraphs like these: "As you create a cleric, the most important question is to consider which deity, or deities, or philosophy, or perhaps a world in which gods don't exist and a cleric's abilities aren't tied to the gods, nothing to serve, and what principles you want your character to embody. Appendix B includes many of the gods of the multiverse, unless your DM doesn't have gods in their campaign, in which case these gods don't exist. Check with your DM to learn which deities are in your campaign, if any. Once you've chosen a deity, or deities, or philosophy, or nothing, consider your cleric's relationship to that god, or gods, or philosophy, or nothing. Did you enter this service willingly? Or did the god, or gods, or philosophy, or nothing, choose you, impelling you into service with no regard for your wishes? How to the temple priests of your faith regard you: as a champion or troublemaker? Unless you worship nothing and there are no temples, or priests. What are your ultimate goals? Does your deity, or deities, or philosophy, or nothing have a special task in mind for you? Or are you striving to prove yourself worthy of a great quest?" Another solution, used by [I]Adventures in Middle Earth[/I], is to not have religion or clerics. They do have a healer class. Which is needed because their Journey Phase doesn't allow long rests, and aside from some herbal remedies that also provide healing, adventurer's wouldn't last very long. Of course, it was based on a source that didn't speak of religion much, or clerics at all. [/QUOTE]
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