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<blockquote data-quote="Leviatham" data-source="post: 5869482" data-attributes="member: 50740"><p>That is true, which is why I am not saying they should reduce their profits or make any loss. I am very happy with them making millions, after all, I wish I could have a few million myself, why should I wish for someone else to have less?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am not going to deny I am biassed. This is an opinion piece, not investigative journalism! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>As for Apple... don't get me started... that should go on another thread and another website! LOL</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The fact that you can still use it and be a part of the same community without having to upgrade is the example of why the updates that GW does are not good. If you want to participate in championships and the like, you must update or you can't enter because the rules are not usable. That is milking the cow when is giving you blood!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The last time I heard that figure was from a friend who worked for GW, but that was 4 years ago. Today it could be different. I read in the BBC website a couple of weeks ago (don't ask me to point to the article... I really am not sure I'd be able to find it) that the production cost for an average tank is 5$. </p><p></p><p>The problem I have with that is the same problem I have with Nike getting cheap stuff manufactured in China and sold to us a lot more expensive. The market might be able to support it, but it shouldn't. I would also argue that if the prices were a bit cheaper, more people would be able to afford it and thus their profitability would increase. This is of course, speculation.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Dude, I lived in Chicago last year for three months and I can tell you and you in the USA are BLESSED with amazing customer services in shops compared with the UK. </p><p></p><p>When I went for the last time (ever!) to my "not so friendly local Games Workshop store" 3 years ago, I was with a friend who wanted to buy something. I was just looking. A shop "assistant" saw me. Came to me and asked me if I was interested in something. "I'm just waiting for my friend, he's buying something" I replied. He, literally, turned around without another word and went back to painting. </p><p></p><p>No, "what is he buying?", "Oh, you don't play, how come?", or even "have you ever played or are interested in miniatures? I could show you how to put them together, you don't have to play to be into GW". </p><p></p><p>Not one thing that would make me want to get into their products or stay in the shop. Or go back.</p><p></p><p>Yes my friend... there are cultural differences! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, I might do that just to see their faces. It'd be hilarious! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure they'd have to make such sales to remain profitable, specially at the high margins they sell. Of course that depends a lot on a lot of factors I don't really have, but if they need to sell so much, wouldn't it make sense to bring more products that, in turn, would attract more customers?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Two things. I don't know what the shelf space is in the shop you have over there, but I know shelf space can be made very efficient and tons of stuff can be had in a small shop.</p><p></p><p>Why do you think there would be a low demand for miniatures? I am not sure how having other products that are GW branded could detract from their minis.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Spotty kids means teenagers full of pimples (spots in British). And I agree with you on that one. Not going to a shop because there are young lads and lasses is totally retarded.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Could you please send those my way? We need some like that in the UK! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I know... I know... but you know what I mean. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, I am aware of the price differences between our countries. Normally USA products in here are sold at almost 1$ = £1. Check the prices of the same boardgame in Amazon between the USA and the UK sites. Make sure you're sitting down when you do!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, that I am not expecting much is quite clear! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I have compared them. I have seen metal minis, plastic ones, presin, pre-painted, hand sculpted... They have indeed changed the material and some of the molding techniques to enhance the detail. At a cost.</p><p></p><p>In my opinion, what they should do is to carry product that are theirs (like their own RPGs) and sell them too. Also their board-games. I don't think that is a crazy idea or too much to ask.</p><p></p><p>Ideally, I would love them to bring also other game accessories that can be used for, say scenario preparation. And, quite frankly, it would be great if they actually bothered to promote the games properly. The amount of tradeshos and conventions that GW attends is minuscule in the UK. Heck, I am not sure they had a presence in Essen (if they did, I didn't see them) and that is unforgivable!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leviatham, post: 5869482, member: 50740"] That is true, which is why I am not saying they should reduce their profits or make any loss. I am very happy with them making millions, after all, I wish I could have a few million myself, why should I wish for someone else to have less? I am not going to deny I am biassed. This is an opinion piece, not investigative journalism! :) As for Apple... don't get me started... that should go on another thread and another website! LOL The fact that you can still use it and be a part of the same community without having to upgrade is the example of why the updates that GW does are not good. If you want to participate in championships and the like, you must update or you can't enter because the rules are not usable. That is milking the cow when is giving you blood! The last time I heard that figure was from a friend who worked for GW, but that was 4 years ago. Today it could be different. I read in the BBC website a couple of weeks ago (don't ask me to point to the article... I really am not sure I'd be able to find it) that the production cost for an average tank is 5$. The problem I have with that is the same problem I have with Nike getting cheap stuff manufactured in China and sold to us a lot more expensive. The market might be able to support it, but it shouldn't. I would also argue that if the prices were a bit cheaper, more people would be able to afford it and thus their profitability would increase. This is of course, speculation. Dude, I lived in Chicago last year for three months and I can tell you and you in the USA are BLESSED with amazing customer services in shops compared with the UK. When I went for the last time (ever!) to my "not so friendly local Games Workshop store" 3 years ago, I was with a friend who wanted to buy something. I was just looking. A shop "assistant" saw me. Came to me and asked me if I was interested in something. "I'm just waiting for my friend, he's buying something" I replied. He, literally, turned around without another word and went back to painting. No, "what is he buying?", "Oh, you don't play, how come?", or even "have you ever played or are interested in miniatures? I could show you how to put them together, you don't have to play to be into GW". Not one thing that would make me want to get into their products or stay in the shop. Or go back. Yes my friend... there are cultural differences! :) Actually, I might do that just to see their faces. It'd be hilarious! :) I'm not sure they'd have to make such sales to remain profitable, specially at the high margins they sell. Of course that depends a lot on a lot of factors I don't really have, but if they need to sell so much, wouldn't it make sense to bring more products that, in turn, would attract more customers? Two things. I don't know what the shelf space is in the shop you have over there, but I know shelf space can be made very efficient and tons of stuff can be had in a small shop. Why do you think there would be a low demand for miniatures? I am not sure how having other products that are GW branded could detract from their minis. Spotty kids means teenagers full of pimples (spots in British). And I agree with you on that one. Not going to a shop because there are young lads and lasses is totally retarded. Could you please send those my way? We need some like that in the UK! :) I know... I know... but you know what I mean. :) Oh, I am aware of the price differences between our countries. Normally USA products in here are sold at almost 1$ = £1. Check the prices of the same boardgame in Amazon between the USA and the UK sites. Make sure you're sitting down when you do! Well, that I am not expecting much is quite clear! :) I have compared them. I have seen metal minis, plastic ones, presin, pre-painted, hand sculpted... They have indeed changed the material and some of the molding techniques to enhance the detail. At a cost. In my opinion, what they should do is to carry product that are theirs (like their own RPGs) and sell them too. Also their board-games. I don't think that is a crazy idea or too much to ask. Ideally, I would love them to bring also other game accessories that can be used for, say scenario preparation. And, quite frankly, it would be great if they actually bothered to promote the games properly. The amount of tradeshos and conventions that GW attends is minuscule in the UK. Heck, I am not sure they had a presence in Essen (if they did, I didn't see them) and that is unforgivable! [/QUOTE]
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