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Message: <blockquote data-quote="happyhermit" data-source="post: 6994964" data-attributes="member: 6834463">Why not start off factually, it doesn't provide all the same benefits.Anyone, including the fighter can take the feat (if optional feats are allowed in that game), this doesn't devalue the ability in any way, since they stack.Nope, because guidance doesn't do the same things and RA doesn't prevent using both.Nobody "needs" anything in a D&D game, they want stuff.So, I have to stop now? You have that power? High Dex fighters were darn good at that <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/cry.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":.-(" title="Cry    :.-(" data-shortname=":.-(" />Hey, you aren't even my GM, what's going on here!?!Whew, thank you for letting me still do that I guess.How do you even know these facts, do you have any sources? Is it mandatory that we change our game to make this so?Assuming there are no time constraints, or consequences of failure, and that the caster is re-casting it every single minute, then some of the drawbacks disappear. We are still left with a situation where guidance can be cast on the fighter to make them even awesome-er, or it can be cast on another PC which is obviously a big deal with checks ie; initiative.Your comparison is apparently based on games being played in a very narrow way, and fails to see the larger picture.Except it really wouldn't be replaced. Even in the tiny box you have constructed the cantrip is still nearly useless in combat, doesn't have the additional benefits of the feature, requires concentration, and has downsides. RA doesn't have downsides, it is an always on bonus. Unless by "entirely replaced" you mean "swapped out for something different", it seems Here we certainly agree! I would describe it as "shoring up" rather than any sort of wellspring. It makes the fighter just all around "good" at physical skills, even if they chose a non-typical one at chargen. It helps them cover their bases and have a good chance of doing most "athletic" things.Or, perhaps playing the game quite differently than you are? Things like whether or not players regularly attempt improvised actions in combat, whether or not things are happening in combat other than fighting, whether or not the GM uses many skills with alternate ability scores, etc. etc. might have a big effect on how useful RA is (and most of which Guidance is almost useless for).I am guessing your answer will be "No, people playing that way are doing it wrong, they should play in a way that makes this ability useless, like I do."</blockquote>

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