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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 9596118" data-attributes="member: 725"><p>I think your definition of a 'Grognard' is <em>way</em> too positive! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>But I'll translate it to "Why old people still matter (to WotC)."... Two things:</p><p>#1 We 'make' the next generation of D&D players, sometimes literally. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>#2 We tend to have more money, the question is IF we want to spend it on D&D. As an example, I've bought most 3e and 4e when it came out and collected most of 2e when I was able to afford it. I never actually played 4e, but I play 5e and only bought the PHB 2014 back in the day, only bought the DMG/MM at the end of 2023 and bought the five Foundry VTT official D&D modules (no physical books) and we now play D&D5e 2024... In the last decade I did buy some big miniatures, like the huge Tiamat and some smaller dragons, so they get a part from Wizkids. BG3 was bought. WAY, way less then what I bought during 20-30 years of age...</p><p></p><p>Many in my group do buy more books though, but some have given away most of their collection to young family members who where playing more often then us and just had way less disposable income.</p><p></p><p>While we tend to have more money, we also have more things to spend it on, and often less time to play. So it really depends on the 'old person' what their spending habit is. I remember a time when I was young that just about any little bit of cash went into D&D (or other RPGs)... </p><p></p><p>What I would call a 'Grognard' wouldn't play any current D&D, wouldn't buy any of the new D&D products, they would continue to play their old collection. So zero benefit to WotC, even introducing new players to D&D in general would probably do more damage then good. Often their vitriol at anything current D&D or WotC would just alienate any new player to 5e/WotC. OR they would just play the best game ever made: "Heroquest is the best game ever made!", and not that new fangled stuff!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 9596118, member: 725"] I think your definition of a 'Grognard' is [I]way[/I] too positive! ;) But I'll translate it to "Why old people still matter (to WotC)."... Two things: #1 We 'make' the next generation of D&D players, sometimes literally. ;) #2 We tend to have more money, the question is IF we want to spend it on D&D. As an example, I've bought most 3e and 4e when it came out and collected most of 2e when I was able to afford it. I never actually played 4e, but I play 5e and only bought the PHB 2014 back in the day, only bought the DMG/MM at the end of 2023 and bought the five Foundry VTT official D&D modules (no physical books) and we now play D&D5e 2024... In the last decade I did buy some big miniatures, like the huge Tiamat and some smaller dragons, so they get a part from Wizkids. BG3 was bought. WAY, way less then what I bought during 20-30 years of age... Many in my group do buy more books though, but some have given away most of their collection to young family members who where playing more often then us and just had way less disposable income. While we tend to have more money, we also have more things to spend it on, and often less time to play. So it really depends on the 'old person' what their spending habit is. I remember a time when I was young that just about any little bit of cash went into D&D (or other RPGs)... What I would call a 'Grognard' wouldn't play any current D&D, wouldn't buy any of the new D&D products, they would continue to play their old collection. So zero benefit to WotC, even introducing new players to D&D in general would probably do more damage then good. Often their vitriol at anything current D&D or WotC would just alienate any new player to 5e/WotC. OR they would just play the best game ever made: "Heroquest is the best game ever made!", and not that new fangled stuff! [/QUOTE]
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