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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9596338"><p>Yeah what I think a lot of people don’t understand is many of us who grew up in the 80s, even if we started on b/X or 1E, often saw those as out of date for many years and happily transitioned to 3E and other editions. For example race as class was always seen an ungainly in my groups in the 90s, and during 3E we looked back on 2E as disorganized and fragmented because it didn’t have a central mechanic. But when I went back and explored these games again in the mid to late 2000s, really just as a gag (I ran 2E with the aim of making Thac0 and metaplot jokes), I discovered a lot of the mechanics fit what wanted way better than WOTC D&D. I had chalked up the memories of my old Ravenloft campaigns in the 90s having better atmosphere to nostalgia. But when I ran it again in 2E, I realized the mechanics were a huge part of that atmosphere and it wasn’t nostalgia. I simply couldn’t get the same feel running Ravenloft with 3E no matter how much I tried. Not everyone is going to share my fondness for this stuff, but my enjoyment of 2E and 1E’s more disjointed system is genuine (because different parts of play have different mechanics, those activities feel different and I like that more than just rolling a d20 for everything)</p></blockquote><p></p>