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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 9597656" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>If I were WotC, I wouldn't do more than a token nod to "grognards" or older TSR editions either. And I say this as a guy whose favorite edition is 1e/2e mashup. They've already been burned hard on that.</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">With 5e, they made the effort to pay attention to us. They hired consultants who were bigger names in the old school sphere. Tarnowski (rpg pundit) and Zak. How well did that age?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Since then, osr communities in social media are generally really toxic places. There are some decent osr groups, but they are few and far between. By far the majority are full of people making daily attacks against WotC and railing against anything "woke".</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Then a guy bought an iconic D&D historical icon (the DHS Museum) and started using "TSR" logos. How did that end up?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">And finally, and probably the biggest, is that since 5e came out, the numbers don't lie. The game took off, largely without us older gamers being all that important to that success.</li> </ul><p></p><p>So with all of the above, I wouldn't spend that much attention to osr or older gamers either. The survivability and growth of the game doesn't rely on us. Seems a no brainer to me. Which, again, sucks to say that because I'm one of those older gamers. But the reality is it would be an enlarged sense of self-importance and entitlement to expect them to pay more than a passing nod to us. Life moves on. I don't blame them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 9597656, member: 15700"] If I were WotC, I wouldn't do more than a token nod to "grognards" or older TSR editions either. And I say this as a guy whose favorite edition is 1e/2e mashup. They've already been burned hard on that. [LIST] [*]With 5e, they made the effort to pay attention to us. They hired consultants who were bigger names in the old school sphere. Tarnowski (rpg pundit) and Zak. How well did that age? [*]Since then, osr communities in social media are generally really toxic places. There are some decent osr groups, but they are few and far between. By far the majority are full of people making daily attacks against WotC and railing against anything "woke". [*]Then a guy bought an iconic D&D historical icon (the DHS Museum) and started using "TSR" logos. How did that end up? [*]And finally, and probably the biggest, is that since 5e came out, the numbers don't lie. The game took off, largely without us older gamers being all that important to that success. [/LIST] So with all of the above, I wouldn't spend that much attention to osr or older gamers either. The survivability and growth of the game doesn't rely on us. Seems a no brainer to me. Which, again, sucks to say that because I'm one of those older gamers. But the reality is it would be an enlarged sense of self-importance and entitlement to expect them to pay more than a passing nod to us. Life moves on. I don't blame them. [/QUOTE]
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