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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AnotherGuy" data-source="post: 9599625" data-attributes="member: 7029930">The fact that Iron Man is not top-flight as you say and that they went with him as the spear point of the Marvel Universe is not a case against hardcore fans.In the spirit of this thread, particularly the OP, I feel that much like grognards were analysed, one could do the same with hardcore fans, but not necessarily by age. We shouldn't paint hardcore fans as some sort of silly vile monolith so we can throw strawmen after strawmen against them.I seem to be missing the point you are trying to make here with regards to hardcore fans.On this we agree.Thank you, the previous poster used Ramey and it looked off to me, and I forgot to google the right spelling. Sure, it petered out, but to no fault of the fanbase, hardcore or otherwise IMO ofcourse.Bold emphasis mine.That is always the best, whether it be an obscure character or obscure actor, it is very satisfying when something great is created and gets that recognition.I feel like the 5% hardcore fans on the one side and the 5% change for the sake of change on the other side are the worst people to cater to.There is a large middle-ground hardcore fanbase which wants these films to succeed because they want these characters that they care about (well-known or obscure) to be celebrated at large. Despite missteps (as I saw them) with the Marvel Netflix shows, I was a fan of those and given Disney's current track record I'm worried how they are going to handle DD. I mean that 3rd season of DD was a dream. I loved the direction they were going with Luke Cage and Iron Fist. Personally I remember I didn't quite enjoy Punisher s2 (need to watch it again) and I have still to watch s3 of Jessica Jones.</blockquote>

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