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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9601251" data-attributes="member: 6801228">No it isn't. All three components of that statement are factual. I suppose you could say that claiming the first Iron Man Movie was good could be considered merely an opinion (backed up by audience reviews to show that it was the prevailing opinion) but it certainly isn't a strawman.None of this really addresses the point? I am completely unaware of any spider-man movie before the Ramey films. Looking it up, there were some films back in the 80's, which I have literally never heard anyone talk about before. But, let's look at the actual point I was making. The Raimi films were good. Brought Spider-Man to the big screen. Then they made the Amazing Spider-Man movies as a reboot which... didn't do as good. Then they told Spider-Man's story as part of the MCU, which did quite a bit better. Neither of those two can touch how impactful Spiderverse has been though. So what makes MCU Spider-Man and Spiderverse different from Amazing Spider-Man? You can just say "better writing" and dismiss it as unimportant, but the MCU Spider-Man was not telling the origin story of Spider-Man. It wasn't just Peter Parker dealing with criminals in New York. It was Peter Parker dealing with the fallout of Civil War, informed by the Invasion from Avengers, and navigating a relationship with Tony Stark. It was a Spider-Man most people had never seen before. And Spider-Verse? Also dealing with a version of Spider-Man most people have not seen before. Why do you feel the need to say that we are in an era of "remakes, alternate timelines, reboots." Because people keep tilling the same ground over and over again. Why? Because to make a multi-million dollar movie that is supposed to make back hundreds of millions of dollars for the studio... they don't take risks. This isn't a lack of creativity on the part of the creatives, it is market pressures strangling new ideas in the crib. And when those new ideas do make it to the big screen? A lot of them are very well received. Because just making "what the fans want" doesn't work. No fan of Star Wars wanted Star Wars until Star Wars was made.I didn't realize the video I posted talking about mostly Star Trek fans called you out directly by name. You might want to complain to the creator about that. The pattern is that hardcore fans largely don't advocate for the changes that are actually good. They advocate for extending the status quo. Because they are fans of the status quo.</blockquote>

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