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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 6831970" data-attributes="member: 7006">So once again, we fall into &quot;D&amp;D is making me play in a way I don't want to&quot; territory.&nbsp; And it's still a BS excuse.&nbsp; It's the 4E Weapon Expertise feat complaint all over again.No one is forcing ANYONE to play characters in a way they don't want to.&nbsp; The game especially isn't.&nbsp; The only people who are being forced to play in a way they don't want are those that are forcing THEMSELVES to do so, because they are afraid of other people looking at them funny and saying &quot;Why aren't you playing correctly?&quot;If you don't want Clerics or Druids to be blaster characters... don't select those spells.&nbsp; Just because the rules in the book allow you to prepare any spell from the Cleric or Druid list, doesn't mean you HAVE to.&nbsp; You can effectively go through the book and create your own &quot;spell list&quot; for your character that only has certain spells in it.&nbsp; Just like if you're a Cleric and don't ever want to be a healer... you just tell your fellow players that you do not and will not ever prepare Healing Word or Cure Wounds as spells, and effectively cross those spells off your own personal Cleric spell list.&nbsp; And the same holds true for players who don't want Clerics and Druids to be blasters.&nbsp; Wipe those spells off your character's Cleric or Druid spell list.&nbsp; There!&nbsp; You're all set!&nbsp; You get what you want.Or if you happen to be the DM, as part of preparing your campaign... you can easily create your own amended spell lists for every class so that they fit into whatever theme or schtick you are looking for in your personal campaign world.&nbsp; You're allowed to.&nbsp; No one's going to stop you.&nbsp; If it gives the world a more precise vision, then that's awesome! But again... that's on you to do that.&nbsp; That's your job as a DM when making your campaign, or your job as a player when making your character.&nbsp; You decide what you will and won't do, what you will and won't use, and most importantly STAND UP for yourself and your right to play the game in that way.&nbsp; And if anyone complains you are &quot;nerfing&quot; yourself by doing so... you tell that person to F-off.&nbsp; Grow the wherewithall to play how you want to play.But don't get mad that WotC is making you HAVE to stand up for your choices like that because didn't write the books in exactly the way you want to play.&nbsp; It's not their job to write the book so that you never have to make that personal choice.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 6831970, member: 7006"] So once again, we fall into "D&D is making me play in a way I don't want to" territory. And it's still a BS excuse. It's the 4E Weapon Expertise feat complaint all over again. No one is forcing ANYONE to play characters in a way they don't want to. The game especially isn't. The only people who are being forced to play in a way they don't want are those that are forcing THEMSELVES to do so, because they are afraid of other people looking at them funny and saying "Why aren't you playing correctly?" If you don't want Clerics or Druids to be blaster characters... don't select those spells. Just because the rules in the book allow you to prepare any spell from the Cleric or Druid list, doesn't mean you HAVE to. You can effectively go through the book and create your own "spell list" for your character that only has certain spells in it. Just like if you're a Cleric and don't ever want to be a healer... you just tell your fellow players that you do not and will not ever prepare Healing Word or Cure Wounds as spells, and effectively cross those spells off your own personal Cleric spell list. And the same holds true for players who don't want Clerics and Druids to be blasters. Wipe those spells off your character's Cleric or Druid spell list. There! You're all set! You get what you want. Or if you happen to be the DM, as part of preparing your campaign... you can easily create your own amended spell lists for every class so that they fit into whatever theme or schtick you are looking for in your personal campaign world. You're allowed to. No one's going to stop you. If it gives the world a more precise vision, then that's awesome! But again... that's [i]on you[/i] to do that. That's your job as a DM when making your campaign, or your job as a player when making your character. You decide what you will and won't do, what you will and won't use, and most importantly STAND UP for yourself and your right to play the game in that way. And if anyone complains you are "nerfing" yourself by doing so... you tell that person to F-off. Grow the wherewithall to play how you want to play. But don't get mad that WotC is making you HAVE to stand up for your choices like that because didn't write the books in exactly the way you want to play. It's not their job to write the book so that you never have to make that personal choice. [/QUOTE]

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