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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 6834201" data-attributes="member: 53980">Perhaps in theory but not in practice. Divine casters are the ones who can actually cast all the spells with a day's rest, and they have been so since 3e. The wizard gets one or two spells per level, plus whatever the DM is willing to give him on top of that. Even if some Monty Haul DM were to give you access to the entire wizard list, copying them all into your spellbooks would require a wealth of both gold and time. Plus, you'd need a portable hold to tote your library around with you.Despite the fact that divine casters literally have access to all divine spells, I haven't have any difficulty keeping my divine characters from being repetitive throughout the editions, but that's just my personal experience. I agree that 4e was the best at handling a no-magic campaign, although I do think it was possible in other editions to varying degrees. 5e would be the next best IMO, and I'd also agree that it has room to grow in achieving its full potential in this respect.I didn't count monk because I don't consider it a no-magic class, given that it's always had a mystical aspect to it. Admittedly, this might not be an issue in a no-magic campaign that allows psionics, where you can attribute the monk's mystical powers to psionic ability.I disagree with you on there being zero classes in 5e that are non-magical. Sub-classes ought to be considered separately from the classes, as you can easily ban a sub-class without impacting the class. The base Barbarian, Fighter, and Rogue classes have zero magical abilities. If you ban the Totem Warrior, Eldritch Knight, and Arcane Trickster, you still have 3 fully viable and playable classes.Different spell lists might help. For myself, I prefer having options. One illusionist might focus on pure illusions like the 1e Illusionist. Another might mix illusory walls of fire with real ones to keep enemies on their toes. I think that more options gives a class greater replay value and makes it more interesting in general.</blockquote>

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