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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 6845858" data-attributes="member: 6775031">Personally, my favorite part of advancement was showing how much more easily you could handle things that used to be dangerous. Like, you start out with ogres being super scary, but you fight enough of them, and eventually you can fight groups of them without breaking a sweat. It's a different way of looking at advancement, but it's one that resonates more with me than a life where you're constantly struggling, albeit against greater and greater challenges. It's also something that 4E wasn't really set up for - a level one orc had enough HP, even at first level, to withstand a decent number of attacks from high-level PCs. You couldn't quickly trounce your old foes unless they were specifically set up to be easy to defeat (with the minion rules), which doesn't exactly feel like much of an accomplishment when you know that's what's going on.</blockquote>