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why has none of the wisdom races caught on?
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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 8562850" data-attributes="member: 6796468"><p>I'mma break this down a little:</p><p></p><p>1) Why no wisdom race in the PHB?</p><p>Because wisdom just isn't important enough to any class. Sure, it's the save DC determiner for Clerics and Druids, but lots of what they do doesn't have a saving throw because it's self-targeting, buffing, or healing. So it wasn't immediately needed out the gate. </p><p></p><p>2) Why no Githzerai in the PHB?</p><p>Because the PHB is all about being basic fantasy. You don't get the wild races in the PHB, you get the Tolkienesque ones.</p><p></p><p>3) Why no Shifter/Kalashtar in the PHB?</p><p>See above, but also add "WotC both loves and hates Eberron" because it's not standard fantasy.</p><p></p><p>4) Why no Firbolg Wis Mod in the PHB?</p><p>Because firbolgs being wise is a NEW thing. And it's mostly because of Matt Mercer and his hilarious shopkeeper with clones.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.royalobrienclan.org/uploads/4/6/3/0/4630231/1336934262.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p>This is the 2e Firbolg. With a +7 damage bonus from his 19 strength he could one-hand a small tree and smack you with it. Yeah, they also had some spellcasting traits, but when you look at that big burly dude you're not thinking 'peaceloving forest spirit gently tending the land'. This is what Firbolg -were- 'til 5e launched and made them nature-folk in the Monster Manual... and then Mercer came up with the sheep-people. Not cow. Sheep. Look at Caduseus Clay and tell me that's a cow and I'll giggle.</p><p></p><p>Ever see the 4e version? Woofta.</p><p><img src="https://bira.github.io/octopus-carnival/assets/wir-mm2-4e-firbolg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p>So yeah... Wisdom just has never been that important to D&D characters. It's good to have a high wisdom, but it's not "I need a 17 at level 1 or I'll suck!" material.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 8562850, member: 6796468"] I'mma break this down a little: 1) Why no wisdom race in the PHB? Because wisdom just isn't important enough to any class. Sure, it's the save DC determiner for Clerics and Druids, but lots of what they do doesn't have a saving throw because it's self-targeting, buffing, or healing. So it wasn't immediately needed out the gate. 2) Why no Githzerai in the PHB? Because the PHB is all about being basic fantasy. You don't get the wild races in the PHB, you get the Tolkienesque ones. 3) Why no Shifter/Kalashtar in the PHB? See above, but also add "WotC both loves and hates Eberron" because it's not standard fantasy. 4) Why no Firbolg Wis Mod in the PHB? Because firbolgs being wise is a NEW thing. And it's mostly because of Matt Mercer and his hilarious shopkeeper with clones. [IMG]http://www.royalobrienclan.org/uploads/4/6/3/0/4630231/1336934262.jpg[/IMG] This is the 2e Firbolg. With a +7 damage bonus from his 19 strength he could one-hand a small tree and smack you with it. Yeah, they also had some spellcasting traits, but when you look at that big burly dude you're not thinking 'peaceloving forest spirit gently tending the land'. This is what Firbolg -were- 'til 5e launched and made them nature-folk in the Monster Manual... and then Mercer came up with the sheep-people. Not cow. Sheep. Look at Caduseus Clay and tell me that's a cow and I'll giggle. Ever see the 4e version? Woofta. [IMG]https://bira.github.io/octopus-carnival/assets/wir-mm2-4e-firbolg.png[/IMG] So yeah... Wisdom just has never been that important to D&D characters. It's good to have a high wisdom, but it's not "I need a 17 at level 1 or I'll suck!" material. [/QUOTE]
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