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why has none of the wisdom races caught on?
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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 8562878" data-attributes="member: 6796468"><p>Number 1 was that wisdom as a casting stat for Clerics and Druids was not that important, because a lot of what they use spellcasting for doesn't have saving throws. I feel like you didn't actually read what I said if you immediately point out it's a casting stat and therefore important...</p><p></p><p>Tieflings and dragonborn aren't "Standard Fantasy", it's true! Dragonborn and Tieflings exist in the PHB because 4e did it's absolute best to break the mold and do something different for differentness's sake. Dragonborn in order to slake people's thirst to play Dragons ('Cause there's always someone who wants to) and Tieflings because holy crap they were a huge hit with the LGBTQIAP+ community! </p><p></p><p>So many people slapped the roof of a Tiefling and said "You can fit so many traumatic allegories into this bad boy" and ran with it. It's also why they come in a rainbow of colors in artwork while the book says they run the gamut from normal human skin tones to red. </p><p><img src="https://webnews21.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Picture1-8.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>This look red to you?! (I love tieflings, obviously, 'cause I'm B and T, myself, but, y'know >.>)</p><p></p><p>That said, demons and dragons and half-demons and half-dragons appear in so much fantasy stuff in the past 30 years that I think they've kind of -become- standard fantasy, at this point, even if they're not Tolkienesque fantasy, per se? Stuff like Healing Potions are Standard Fantasy, these days, but were never part of Tolkienesque High Fantasy, y'know?</p><p></p><p>Gith, on the other hand, are very much D&D Niche. Like. Straight up protected IP. Not out in the greater consciousness.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 8562878, member: 6796468"] Number 1 was that wisdom as a casting stat for Clerics and Druids was not that important, because a lot of what they use spellcasting for doesn't have saving throws. I feel like you didn't actually read what I said if you immediately point out it's a casting stat and therefore important... Tieflings and dragonborn aren't "Standard Fantasy", it's true! Dragonborn and Tieflings exist in the PHB because 4e did it's absolute best to break the mold and do something different for differentness's sake. Dragonborn in order to slake people's thirst to play Dragons ('Cause there's always someone who wants to) and Tieflings because holy crap they were a huge hit with the LGBTQIAP+ community! So many people slapped the roof of a Tiefling and said "You can fit so many traumatic allegories into this bad boy" and ran with it. It's also why they come in a rainbow of colors in artwork while the book says they run the gamut from normal human skin tones to red. [IMG]https://webnews21.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Picture1-8.jpg[/IMG] This look red to you?! (I love tieflings, obviously, 'cause I'm B and T, myself, but, y'know >.>) That said, demons and dragons and half-demons and half-dragons appear in so much fantasy stuff in the past 30 years that I think they've kind of -become- standard fantasy, at this point, even if they're not Tolkienesque fantasy, per se? Stuff like Healing Potions are Standard Fantasy, these days, but were never part of Tolkienesque High Fantasy, y'know? Gith, on the other hand, are very much D&D Niche. Like. Straight up protected IP. Not out in the greater consciousness. [/QUOTE]
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