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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 4414116" data-attributes="member: 18">Personally, I don't loathe Drizzt, that much. He's a little dull, but apart from his appearance in Hall of Heroes 2E, he's never been ridiculously overpowered and grossly offensive like some of the FR NPCs, some who have consistently violated practically every possible rule (often quite unecessarily) and generally had/done things that no PC ever could have.I really don't like, however, that he popularized the whole &quot;Oh I'm just misunderstood!&quot; deal, whereby certain people are absolutely desperate to play members of evil races (inevitably glamourous/attractive evil races, never ugly/thuggish ones) who aren't evil like the rest of them.What's particularly offensive about Drizzt, too, is that he seems to be good without a reason, just born that way (and when I read them, the Homeland books just reinforced this feeling), which encourages further sloppy/lazy characterization and a general view that people are somehow born with a specific &quot;alignment&quot; or strict behaviour-pattern. Which seems like a really crappy view for supposedly intelligent humanoid races.Also, if you played in 2E, unless you played with a hyper-specific group of people, you inevitably met people practically demanding to be allowed to play Drow, and using Drizzt as the reason why, and then yes, acting exactly like Drizzt (the ol' &quot;Wolverine&quot; syndrome, as Set points out). Further, many Drow or Elf-related products seemed to go out of their way to support this particular annoying idiocy, wasting pages and further encouraging it. You could always say no, as a DM, but it was annoying nonetheless.Really though, to hell with misunderstood loners and overpowered hyper-magical races.At least 3E made it so that it was no longer &quot;all good&quot; to be a Drow, and for 4E, it's kind of crappy and people mock you for having the same stat mods as a Halfling, which gets two thumbs up from me! So essentially most of the problems he created, apart from lame-ing-up the Drow, have gone away, but we're still bitter. Well, some of us. I'm a lot less bitter than I was in 2E, I can tell you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 4414116, member: 18"] Personally, I don't loathe Drizzt, that much. He's a little dull, but apart from his appearance in Hall of Heroes 2E, he's never been ridiculously overpowered and grossly offensive like some of the FR NPCs, some who have consistently violated practically every possible rule (often quite unecessarily) and generally had/done things that no PC ever could have. I really don't like, however, that he popularized the whole "Oh I'm just misunderstood!" deal, whereby certain people are absolutely desperate to play members of evil races (inevitably glamourous/attractive evil races, never ugly/thuggish ones) who aren't evil like the rest of them. What's particularly offensive about Drizzt, too, is that he seems to be good without a reason, just born that way (and when I read them, the Homeland books just reinforced this feeling), which encourages further sloppy/lazy characterization and a general view that people are somehow born with a specific "alignment" or strict behaviour-pattern. Which seems like a really crappy view for supposedly intelligent humanoid races. Also, if you played in 2E, unless you played with a hyper-specific group of people, you inevitably met people practically demanding to be allowed to play Drow, and using Drizzt as the reason why, and then yes, acting exactly like Drizzt (the ol' "Wolverine" syndrome, as Set points out). Further, many Drow or Elf-related products seemed to go out of their way to support this particular annoying idiocy, wasting pages and further encouraging it. You could always say no, as a DM, but it was annoying nonetheless. Really though, to hell with misunderstood loners and overpowered hyper-magical races. At least 3E made it so that it was no longer "all good" to be a Drow, and for 4E, it's kind of crappy and people mock you for having the same stat mods as a Halfling, which gets two thumbs up from me! So essentially most of the problems he created, apart from lame-ing-up the Drow, have gone away, but we're still bitter. Well, some of us. I'm a lot less bitter than I was in 2E, I can tell you. [/QUOTE]

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