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<blockquote data-quote="weem" data-source="post: 5176918" data-attributes="member: 9470"><p><strong>@Haffrung</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>As has been said, no need to apologize at all - opinions do not need to be apologized for <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>With that said, I think Tarion makes a good point - sure, the more you post, the more opportunities you will have to receive XP. But that is not a flaw in the system - it doesn't have to do with the system. It simply means, you are in front of people more often and the chances of you saying/doing something that others will appreciate increases.</p><p></p><p>And just to put some numbers up. This is the list of top XP earners, followed by (in parenthesis) their rank as far as total # of posts ("not listed" means they didn't make the top 100 list)...</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Silver">#1 weem (not listed)</span></p><p><span style="color: Silver"></span></p><p><span style="color: Silver">#2 Steel_Wind (not listed)</span></p><p><span style="color: Silver"></span></p><p><span style="color: Silver">#3 Piratecat (#6)</span></p><p><span style="color: Silver"></span></p><p><span style="color: Silver">#4 Mark (#21)</span></p><p><span style="color: Silver"></span></p><p><span style="color: Silver">#5 Nifft (#13)</span></p><p><span style="color: Silver"></span></p><p><span style="color: Silver">#6 Kamikaze Midget (#67)</span></p><p><span style="color: Silver"></span></p><p><span style="color: Silver">#7 Obryn (not ilsted)</span></p><p><span style="color: Silver"></span></p><p><span style="color: Silver">#8 Morrus (#25)</span></p><p><span style="color: Silver"></span></p><p><span style="color: Silver">#9 Celebrim (not listed)</span></p><p><span style="color: Silver"></span></p><p><span style="color: Silver">#10 RangerWickett (#45)</span></p><p></p><p>Based on what you said, you would think at least the top 5 posters would make this list, when in fact only 1 poster from the top 20 does. 4 of the top 10 xp earners do not even make the top 100 list of posters.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I'm just saying that they are not as directly related as some people think.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>@StreamOfTheSky</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, they are a way of (and I quote) "<em>showing your appreciation to other users depending on the quality of their posts</em>." The quality of the post is in the eye of the reader. Often times, these will be helpful and informative, but that's not what they are "supposed" to (in some strict ruling sense) be used for.</p><p></p><p>They are for "showing your appreciation" - and just because you (anyone) might not appreciate the same thing I do, that does not make it any less valuable, or of lower quality.</p><p></p><p>I think that's one of the problems is that people have their own ideas about what this system SHOULD do.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>@StreamOfTheSky</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>A PM of "thank you"? - That requires copying the content you like, hitting their name, hitting "Send a Private Message", pasting in the content, and finally telling them you like it.</p><p></p><p>Or... you could (using the XP system as it is intended) hit the thumb - say "thanks!" and hit enter. They are then notified (like a PM!) that someone liked something they had to say, and they are linked right to it, all automically. Plus, it does not use any of your limited number of PM's.</p><p></p><p>It's MUCH easier/faster to give someone XP (appreciation) than send them a PM.</p><p></p><p>You also mentioned responding in the thread, but often times I just want to let them know I liked what they had to say, but not really say anything more than that. I would rather skip over 5 stacked XP comments (which would equal the height of a banner ad approx) of "thanks" than have to scroll over 5 whole posts that only said "thanks", "that was awesome" etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>@StreamOfTheSky</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>No one said you needed it to tell you that (I hope).</p><p></p><p>Why would you listen to someones advice based on their XP count instead of the merit of the advice itself and how it relates to you?</p><p></p><p>I am (at the moment) #1 on the XP Earned list and I can tell you right now I am FAR FROM a wellspring of knowledge. If you get advice from me please, by all means, get a second opinion - not that I don't try, but my XP count (like everyone elses) is not a measure how closely you should be following my advice (again, it was never meant to be that). I know that this is kind of making your point (when your point was that these should be "helpful and informative" posts) but again, that expectation is flawed (imo). I did not earn them because of some clique I am part of, or for posting a lot. Most of the XP I received are from creating and sharing things I think others would enjoy or find useful. They are not always helpful, and they are almost never informative, but people appreciate them.</p><p></p><p>I read a thread recently that had zero replies. It was long, but I had some time and I like to read those things that get zero responses to see why that might be. Anyway, by the end I was thinking, "<em>yea, I see why there were no replies. It wasn't bad, it was just that he presented a lot of info that is specific to his situation that does nothing for me... I can't use anything from it, and I don't have anything to say</em>". But you know what? I gave him XP anyway for taking the time to articulate so much info and share it with others.</p><p></p><p>I appreciated his effort and that is the point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="weem, post: 5176918, member: 9470"] [B]@Haffrung[/B] As has been said, no need to apologize at all - opinions do not need to be apologized for ;) With that said, I think Tarion makes a good point - sure, the more you post, the more opportunities you will have to receive XP. But that is not a flaw in the system - it doesn't have to do with the system. It simply means, you are in front of people more often and the chances of you saying/doing something that others will appreciate increases. And just to put some numbers up. This is the list of top XP earners, followed by (in parenthesis) their rank as far as total # of posts ("not listed" means they didn't make the top 100 list)... [COLOR="Silver"]#1 weem (not listed) #2 Steel_Wind (not listed) #3 Piratecat (#6) #4 Mark (#21) #5 Nifft (#13) #6 Kamikaze Midget (#67) #7 Obryn (not ilsted) #8 Morrus (#25) #9 Celebrim (not listed) #10 RangerWickett (#45)[/COLOR] Based on what you said, you would think at least the top 5 posters would make this list, when in fact only 1 poster from the top 20 does. 4 of the top 10 xp earners do not even make the top 100 list of posters. Anyway, I'm just saying that they are not as directly related as some people think. [B]@StreamOfTheSky[/B] Actually, they are a way of (and I quote) "[I]showing your appreciation to other users depending on the quality of their posts[/I]." The quality of the post is in the eye of the reader. Often times, these will be helpful and informative, but that's not what they are "supposed" to (in some strict ruling sense) be used for. They are for "showing your appreciation" - and just because you (anyone) might not appreciate the same thing I do, that does not make it any less valuable, or of lower quality. I think that's one of the problems is that people have their own ideas about what this system SHOULD do. [B]@StreamOfTheSky[/B] A PM of "thank you"? - That requires copying the content you like, hitting their name, hitting "Send a Private Message", pasting in the content, and finally telling them you like it. Or... you could (using the XP system as it is intended) hit the thumb - say "thanks!" and hit enter. They are then notified (like a PM!) that someone liked something they had to say, and they are linked right to it, all automically. Plus, it does not use any of your limited number of PM's. It's MUCH easier/faster to give someone XP (appreciation) than send them a PM. You also mentioned responding in the thread, but often times I just want to let them know I liked what they had to say, but not really say anything more than that. I would rather skip over 5 stacked XP comments (which would equal the height of a banner ad approx) of "thanks" than have to scroll over 5 whole posts that only said "thanks", "that was awesome" etc. [B]@StreamOfTheSky[/B] No one said you needed it to tell you that (I hope). Why would you listen to someones advice based on their XP count instead of the merit of the advice itself and how it relates to you? I am (at the moment) #1 on the XP Earned list and I can tell you right now I am FAR FROM a wellspring of knowledge. If you get advice from me please, by all means, get a second opinion - not that I don't try, but my XP count (like everyone elses) is not a measure how closely you should be following my advice (again, it was never meant to be that). I know that this is kind of making your point (when your point was that these should be "helpful and informative" posts) but again, that expectation is flawed (imo). I did not earn them because of some clique I am part of, or for posting a lot. Most of the XP I received are from creating and sharing things I think others would enjoy or find useful. They are not always helpful, and they are almost never informative, but people appreciate them. I read a thread recently that had zero replies. It was long, but I had some time and I like to read those things that get zero responses to see why that might be. Anyway, by the end I was thinking, "[I]yea, I see why there were no replies. It wasn't bad, it was just that he presented a lot of info that is specific to his situation that does nothing for me... I can't use anything from it, and I don't have anything to say[/I]". But you know what? I gave him XP anyway for taking the time to articulate so much info and share it with others. I appreciated his effort and that is the point. [/QUOTE]
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