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<blockquote data-quote="CydKnight" data-source="post: 7133170" data-attributes="member: 6873462">For me I find that using standard array or point buy works better at my tables.&nbsp; The biggest reason being that when players roll their own, I often run into stat envy.&nbsp; Some simply will roll better than others even if only slightly.&nbsp; Even when rolls are made at the table in view of everyone, there often seems to always be someone that feels they are diminished or slighted because someone has better ability scores than they.&nbsp; This leads to animosity which leads to conflict between party members either during role-play or during reality side bars at the table.&nbsp; Often it is passive aggressive.&nbsp; Other times folks won't say anything outright and specific about it but you can tell by their body language and comments they are not happy because they believe that someone else at the table has a &quot;better character&quot;.&nbsp; Sure there are other reasons besides ability scores that might lead someone to believe their character is inferior to others but those for the most part can be controlled by the choices we make for character type, spells, feats, equipment, etc.&nbsp; No other major aspect of character creation leaves one feeling as helpless as the randomness of rolling for your ability scores.&nbsp; This is especially true when players already have their ideal character in mind which is very often the case.&nbsp; Because they didn't get to choose their scores, even if a limited choice, they are potentially let down by a perceived power deficiency that they could not control.This is not the case for everyone.&nbsp; Some are perfectly fine with taking random scores and placing them wherever they feel makes an ideal character build.&nbsp; Maybe you play with a regular group which is fine doing it this way and perhaps even prefers it.&nbsp; If it works for that group you should definitely roll for your ASIs.The cool thing is that there are choices for how this can be done so you can choose the one that works best for you and your group.&nbsp; If there were no choices and we all just accepted this was the way, would there be no interesting discussions such as this.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CydKnight, post: 7133170, member: 6873462"] For me I find that using standard array or point buy works better at my tables. The biggest reason being that when players roll their own, I often run into stat envy. Some simply will roll better than others even if only slightly. Even when rolls are made at the table in view of everyone, there often seems to always be someone that feels they are diminished or slighted because someone has better ability scores than they. This leads to animosity which leads to conflict between party members either during role-play or during reality side bars at the table. Often it is passive aggressive. Other times folks won't say anything outright and specific about it but you can tell by their body language and comments they are not happy because they believe that someone else at the table has a "better character". Sure there are other reasons besides ability scores that might lead someone to believe their character is inferior to others but those for the most part can be controlled by the choices we make for character type, spells, feats, equipment, etc. No other major aspect of character creation leaves one feeling as helpless as the [I]randomness[/I] of rolling for your ability scores. This is especially true when players already have their ideal character in mind which is very often the case. Because they didn't get to choose their scores, even if a limited choice, they are potentially let down by a perceived power deficiency that they could not control. This is not the case for everyone. Some are perfectly fine with taking random scores and placing them wherever they feel makes an ideal character build. Maybe you play with a regular group which is fine doing it this way and perhaps even prefers it. If it works for that group you should definitely roll for your ASIs. The cool thing is that there are choices for how this can be done so you can choose the one that works best for you and your group. If there were no choices and we all just accepted this was the way, would there be no interesting discussions such as this. [/QUOTE]

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