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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7134827" data-attributes="member: 6795602">So I rolled up sorcerer with 20 cha, 19 wisdom, 18 dex, 12 con, 9 int, 8 strI pretty much would never have assigned a high wisdom to the character with the standard array.&nbsp; Maybe a 12 or 13 but no higher.&nbsp; I could have assigned that 19 to con and been a much stronger combat character but the wisdom fit my master of conversation idea of which &quot;wisdom: insight&quot; seems very important to me.&nbsp; So now I have the character that can talk anyone into anything and can tell mid conversation if what he's saying is having the intended effect on the person or if he needs to try a different conversation strategy to get what he wants from that person.&nbsp; I find myself making more interesting characters when I roll than when I use point buy at least IMO.&nbsp; So many classes heavily benefit from 3 different stats and hardly any from the other stats.&nbsp; With point buy and racials about all you can feasibly get is 3 moderate stats and like a 12 or 13.&nbsp; When rolling if I roll good then I can have enough in the 2-3 stats I benefit from and still have room for one interesting character stat that isn't stereotypical for archetype.Yes, I could play &quot;inferior&quot; characters with the standard array and I have before.&nbsp; My 8 con rogue with high dex and wis was a blast (expertise with passive perception and the observant feat WOOT!)&nbsp; But by and large most character concepts just can't make great use of high &quot;offstats&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7134827, member: 6795602"] So I rolled up sorcerer with 20 cha, 19 wisdom, 18 dex, 12 con, 9 int, 8 str I pretty much would never have assigned a high wisdom to the character with the standard array. Maybe a 12 or 13 but no higher. I could have assigned that 19 to con and been a much stronger combat character but the wisdom fit my master of conversation idea of which "wisdom: insight" seems very important to me. So now I have the character that can talk anyone into anything and can tell mid conversation if what he's saying is having the intended effect on the person or if he needs to try a different conversation strategy to get what he wants from that person. I find myself making more interesting characters when I roll than when I use point buy at least IMO. So many classes heavily benefit from 3 different stats and hardly any from the other stats. With point buy and racials about all you can feasibly get is 3 moderate stats and like a 12 or 13. When rolling if I roll good then I can have enough in the 2-3 stats I benefit from and still have room for one interesting character stat that isn't stereotypical for archetype. Yes, I could play "inferior" characters with the standard array and I have before. My 8 con rogue with high dex and wis was a blast (expertise with passive perception and the observant feat WOOT!) But by and large most character concepts just can't make great use of high "offstats". [/QUOTE]

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