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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7134891" data-attributes="member: 6795602">WOW.&nbsp; So I'm going to ignore the silly part that accuses me of cheating or suiciding my character.&nbsp; I'm also going to ignore the things that can can be added to any stat generation method like free skills or free racial feats.So that basically leaves your opinions about +2 to wisdom checks (of which I am only really interested in insight ones).&nbsp; So let's start with your flawed assessment that +2 means 10% more successes.&nbsp; That's not true.&nbsp; It depends on the DC for how many more successes I will have.&nbsp; If I had a 5% chance of success without the +2 bonus then I would have a 15% chance of success with it.&nbsp; I tripled my chances of success on some of the hardest DC's!&nbsp; Likewise if we look more at an average like a normal 50% chance of success then that +2 means 60% total chance of success which is 20% more successes!&nbsp; It also means I will always pass more lower DC's without even needing to worry about my roll.&nbsp; The second and more important consideration is that I cannot say my sorcerer is a master at reading people while only have a 12 wisdom and proficiency in insight.&nbsp; That drastically alters my character concept.&nbsp; And all for what you attempt to describe as a measly +2!&nbsp; It's the fact of him being a master at reading peoples motives that makes him interesting compared to other sorcerors!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7134891, member: 6795602"] WOW. So I'm going to ignore the silly part that accuses me of cheating or suiciding my character. I'm also going to ignore the things that can can be added to any stat generation method like free skills or free racial feats. So that basically leaves your opinions about +2 to wisdom checks (of which I am only really interested in insight ones). So let's start with your flawed assessment that +2 means 10% more successes. That's not true. It depends on the DC for how many more successes I will have. If I had a 5% chance of success without the +2 bonus then I would have a 15% chance of success with it. I tripled my chances of success on some of the hardest DC's! Likewise if we look more at an average like a normal 50% chance of success then that +2 means 60% total chance of success which is 20% more successes! It also means I will always pass more lower DC's without even needing to worry about my roll. The second and more important consideration is that I cannot say my sorcerer is a master at reading people while only have a 12 wisdom and proficiency in insight. That drastically alters my character concept. And all for what you attempt to describe as a measly +2! It's the fact of him being a master at reading peoples motives that makes him interesting compared to other sorcerors! [/QUOTE]

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