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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5401785" data-attributes="member: 22779">So, in your mind, the DM or referee, is simply a computer passively reacting to whatever input the players put forward?But, this:and this:are specifically at odds with eachother.  Rule 0 most certainly DID exist in every edition of D&D.  It's in the first few pages of every single DMG save possibly the 4e one, which, while it doesn't specifically say that there are no rules, only guidelines, still allows a great deal of flex for what the DM can do.Rule 0 simply states that all rules are guidelines.  That's what Rule 0 IS.  Since you admit that all rules are guidelines is an element of all versions of D&D, therefore, all versions of D&D have Rule 0.The eleven elements I listed above are not edition dependent.  A DM is granted that authority in EVERY edition.Ok, we're not going to agree on this.  You have a definition of role playing game that is at odds with pretty much any accepted definition and now you're trying to argue based on a definition that only you hold.  This is not going to go anywhere.  Let's just agree to disagree.</blockquote>