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Why I don't like alignment in fantasy RPGs
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<blockquote data-quote="shadzar" data-source="post: 5436821" data-attributes="member: 6667746"><p>Right, but it also can be applied to alignment.</p><p></p><p>Separate reality from fantasy.</p><p></p><p>The names exist in a manner ot relate to them, not hold true to today's standards. Now that you have a general idea of the terms and what they stand for that you can understand, what do these alignments mean to the people of the fantasy world. How do THEY view these things, as opposed to how WE view them.</p><p></p><p>In a culture where women are property, then the law states they are, and rape really couldn't exist. Lets just leave that example as meaning property doesn't have choices or rights.</p><p></p><p>We don't have to agree with this extreme in the real world, but in a game, it could be easy that such exists and is deemed status quo. As such a touchy subject, personal reactions to some things and ability to separate the fantasy from reality in regards to those things that deal with alignment, is where the only real problems lie.</p><p></p><p>IF you can separate the reality, and assume the fantasy POV, then let the fantasy POV be what is used to determine the fantasy character response and reactions to all things.</p><p></p><p>Now that the example has been made, let just focus on the meaning behind using the example, and not continue using the example itself.</p><p></p><p>When you think about it, it is most funny how many people want to step outside of reality and not worry about gravity so much as to remove simulationism from the game and all these other things done to do so, yet alignment being argued over only strives to simulate reality within it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shadzar, post: 5436821, member: 6667746"] Right, but it also can be applied to alignment. Separate reality from fantasy. The names exist in a manner ot relate to them, not hold true to today's standards. Now that you have a general idea of the terms and what they stand for that you can understand, what do these alignments mean to the people of the fantasy world. How do THEY view these things, as opposed to how WE view them. In a culture where women are property, then the law states they are, and rape really couldn't exist. Lets just leave that example as meaning property doesn't have choices or rights. We don't have to agree with this extreme in the real world, but in a game, it could be easy that such exists and is deemed status quo. As such a touchy subject, personal reactions to some things and ability to separate the fantasy from reality in regards to those things that deal with alignment, is where the only real problems lie. IF you can separate the reality, and assume the fantasy POV, then let the fantasy POV be what is used to determine the fantasy character response and reactions to all things. Now that the example has been made, let just focus on the meaning behind using the example, and not continue using the example itself. When you think about it, it is most funny how many people want to step outside of reality and not worry about gravity so much as to remove simulationism from the game and all these other things done to do so, yet alignment being argued over only strives to simulate reality within it. [/QUOTE]
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