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<blockquote data-quote="shadzar" data-source="post: 5437233" data-attributes="member: 6667746"><p>The paladin's always a funny one isn't he, that fop!</p><p></p><p>Here is what you have to remember, who's laws is he following? HE is not of this town, and will adhere to the laws when found out they are different or don't conflict with his views, but he also doesn't seek to learn the laws of a new town, as in his mind, all towns shoudl have the same laws, if l;aws are to have any meaning, then they would be the same everywhere.</p><p></p><p>Again, it is why the name is the problem. Chaos is not the opposite of Law, lawlessness is. Order is the opposite of Chaos.</p><p></p><p>Neutral tries to seek a balance between law and chaos, and between good and evil. Simple enough, half of half of the alignments are already figured out.</p><p></p><p>Good cares. It cares about oneself, and others, and doesn't really like suffering.</p><p></p><p>Evil doesnt give a [EXPLITIVE]!</p><p></p><p>Which leads to the only other 2 parts, Chaos and Law.</p><p></p><p>Chaos is easy as it is just anybody doing whatever they want. Chaotic Neutral helps good or evil depending on their whim to seek the balance between them as the character sees it to be done...so Chaos is simple.</p><p></p><p>Law is used to maintain....ORDER, the true opposite of Chaos.</p><p></p><p>So if you think not of a paladin as trying to uphold every law, and rather trying to maintain the order where he is, then it is a whole lot simpler.</p><p></p><p>That is why I said somewhere that the two names were a mistake. Simple one, carried a long way; but IF Lawful had been presented, and people read it, as a method to maintain order...I think many of the arguments about alignment would have never existed.</p><p></p><p>Break it down into the two parts GvE, LvC. Accept Order is the meaning of Lawful because Orderly Evil just doesn't make much more sense than LAwful Evil, but Lawful Evil just has a nice ring to it. Also Order for a side of an axis would look silly ON, OG, OE..to which I would have to say OY!</p><p></p><p>Then your paladin is now seking to maintain order and be good, and it isn't so much of a strain on all the many years of gaming, when people don't look like he is supposed to be Judge Dredd spouting off, "I AM THE L'AW". (Yes you knew I was going to say that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )</p><p></p><p>So what does the view of the paladin look like if thinking of him as a symbol of Order and Good?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shadzar, post: 5437233, member: 6667746"] The paladin's always a funny one isn't he, that fop! Here is what you have to remember, who's laws is he following? HE is not of this town, and will adhere to the laws when found out they are different or don't conflict with his views, but he also doesn't seek to learn the laws of a new town, as in his mind, all towns shoudl have the same laws, if l;aws are to have any meaning, then they would be the same everywhere. Again, it is why the name is the problem. Chaos is not the opposite of Law, lawlessness is. Order is the opposite of Chaos. Neutral tries to seek a balance between law and chaos, and between good and evil. Simple enough, half of half of the alignments are already figured out. Good cares. It cares about oneself, and others, and doesn't really like suffering. Evil doesnt give a [EXPLITIVE]! Which leads to the only other 2 parts, Chaos and Law. Chaos is easy as it is just anybody doing whatever they want. Chaotic Neutral helps good or evil depending on their whim to seek the balance between them as the character sees it to be done...so Chaos is simple. Law is used to maintain....ORDER, the true opposite of Chaos. So if you think not of a paladin as trying to uphold every law, and rather trying to maintain the order where he is, then it is a whole lot simpler. That is why I said somewhere that the two names were a mistake. Simple one, carried a long way; but IF Lawful had been presented, and people read it, as a method to maintain order...I think many of the arguments about alignment would have never existed. Break it down into the two parts GvE, LvC. Accept Order is the meaning of Lawful because Orderly Evil just doesn't make much more sense than LAwful Evil, but Lawful Evil just has a nice ring to it. Also Order for a side of an axis would look silly ON, OG, OE..to which I would have to say OY! Then your paladin is now seking to maintain order and be good, and it isn't so much of a strain on all the many years of gaming, when people don't look like he is supposed to be Judge Dredd spouting off, "I AM THE L'AW". (Yes you knew I was going to say that. ;) ) So what does the view of the paladin look like if thinking of him as a symbol of Order and Good? [/QUOTE]
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