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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3281323" data-attributes="member: 29014">Even against a 7th-level party, I'd expect no casualties unless they have pretty rotten luck on that first save.&nbsp; The thing has AC 20 and an impotent Strength and damage.&nbsp; It can be grappled to death with ease by a grappler with a cold iron dagger (and once it is in the grapple, you don't need to worry about the miss chance for closing your eyes since it is in the grapple, and the rest of the party can just ignore it), killed in a few hits by a Power Attacking meleer (it may take a bit more if they don't have Cold Iron), nearly killed instantly by an Empowered Cold-Subbed Scorching Ray (or similar magics), kited by archers with cold-iron arrows out of the 30-foot range of the gaze (the thing can only move 20 feet a round, so if your archer has 40 foot move speed somehow, you can easily kite it, even if it sprints at you, and you can eventually manage to kite it even with 30-foot speed).Really, the only thing that makes the Bodak a nontrivial encounter to win is the Cold Iron DR, if you don't have Cold Iron, and of course the Death Gaze is a roulette (but then, a level 1 Orc Barbarian armed with a x3 or x4 crit weapon will kill you in one blow at the levels you would typically fight it if it rolls a crit).&nbsp; I threw a modified Bodak without the DR, a Ghast, and two Ghouls at a level 3 party that was missing some of the members (they split up), and the remaining two party members (one of which was a Gnome Rogue who fought with Daggers, so you can imagine what little he could do against undead) won the encounter.&nbsp; They did use Action Points though (this was Eberron).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 3281323, member: 29014"] Even against a 7th-level party, I'd expect no casualties unless they have pretty rotten luck on that first save. The thing has AC 20 and an impotent Strength and damage. It can be grappled to death with ease by a grappler with a cold iron dagger (and once it is in the grapple, you don't need to worry about the miss chance for closing your eyes since it is in the grapple, and the rest of the party can just ignore it), killed in a few hits by a Power Attacking meleer (it may take a bit more if they don't have Cold Iron), nearly killed instantly by an Empowered Cold-Subbed Scorching Ray (or similar magics), kited by archers with cold-iron arrows out of the 30-foot range of the gaze (the thing can only move 20 feet a round, so if your archer has 40 foot move speed somehow, you can easily kite it, even if it sprints at you, and you can eventually manage to kite it even with 30-foot speed). Really, the only thing that makes the Bodak a nontrivial encounter to win is the Cold Iron DR, if you don't have Cold Iron, and of course the Death Gaze is a roulette (but then, a level 1 Orc Barbarian armed with a x3 or x4 crit weapon will kill you in one blow at the levels you would typically fight it if it rolls a crit). I threw a modified Bodak without the DR, a Ghast, and two Ghouls at a level 3 party that was missing some of the members (they split up), and the remaining two party members (one of which was a Gnome Rogue who fought with Daggers, so you can imagine what little he could do against undead) won the encounter. They did use Action Points though (this was Eberron). [/QUOTE]

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