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<blockquote data-quote="Zimri" data-source="post: 3131513" data-attributes="member: 15991">I don't know that this thread is the best place for this and I apologize if I derail it completely.I think one of the main factors in the &quot;buildz&quot; mentality of having to have the most optimized character possible for your class/race/level/ combination is that now rather than being 4 or 5 people around a gaming table making suggestions if you ask we have places like the &quot;character optimization board&quot; at wizards.com.The mentality of some gamers now is if your character isn't built into the optimal powerhouse you are &quot;letting the group down&quot; and they should be able to boot you. I can't stand that mentality but it does appear to be growing if posts on enworld are any indication. All it takes is one in a gaming community and then it grows perhaps slowly, perhaps swiftly depending on the charisma of the player(s) involved.Sure helping people optimize can be a good thing but there is a difference between &quot;Wow your character can do awesome stuff can you help me level my character or build a new one please? &quot; and &quot;You are the weakest link goodbye!!!!!&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zimri, post: 3131513, member: 15991"] I don't know that this thread is the best place for this and I apologize if I derail it completely. I think one of the main factors in the "buildz" mentality of having to have the most optimized character possible for your class/race/level/ combination is that now rather than being 4 or 5 people around a gaming table making suggestions if you ask we have places like the "character optimization board" at wizards.com. The mentality of some gamers now is if your character isn't built into the optimal powerhouse you are "letting the group down" and they should be able to boot you. I can't stand that mentality but it does appear to be growing if posts on enworld are any indication. All it takes is one in a gaming community and then it grows perhaps slowly, perhaps swiftly depending on the charisma of the player(s) involved. Sure helping people optimize can be a good thing but there is a difference between "Wow your character can do awesome stuff can you help me level my character or build a new one please? " and "You are the weakest link goodbye!!!!!" [/QUOTE]

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