Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Geek Talk & Media
'Why I hate 'Lord of the Rings' '
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1283468" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>Well, Isildur never actually used the ring for evil, so perhaps Elrond thought he'd find a way, once he got the help of the other bearers of the three rings. Remember, Isildur was pretty powerful, in his own right.</p><p> </p><p>Ignoring that, however, we have plenty of reasons right in the film to dictate that behavior. We see Gandalf reach for the ring, clearly tempted for a moment...and he resists. Elrond never touched the ring, presumably for the same reason. Moreover, we see several instances where the ring clouds the thoughts of those near it, particularly when they become violent or angry. Boromir loses control of himself temporarily, when his emotions overcome him, and the ring twist him. He regrets it later, but during the event, he isn't aware of it. Aragorn considers it, as well, when Frodo leaves the fellowship. Galadriel makes it clear that if she dared take the ring, she'd lose all sense of self, and from both her and Gandalf's reactions, it would happen almost instantaneously.</p><p> </p><p>Elrond clearly knew the risk involved, and knew what would happen if Isildur fought him for the ring. It could have gone very badly, very quickly. Was it a potential mistake? Sure. But hindsight is always 20/20. And from the context of the films, Elrond needs to be pushed in to doing much of anything other than shutting down Rivendell and shuffling his people to the Grey Havens, his only real concern. The second two films only reinforce all these themes.</p><p> </p><p>There's nothing wrong with someone disliking the films for any number of reasons. I think he chose some poorly thought out arguments, myself (as there are better ones to make), but to each his own.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 1283468, member: 151"] Well, Isildur never actually used the ring for evil, so perhaps Elrond thought he'd find a way, once he got the help of the other bearers of the three rings. Remember, Isildur was pretty powerful, in his own right. Ignoring that, however, we have plenty of reasons right in the film to dictate that behavior. We see Gandalf reach for the ring, clearly tempted for a moment...and he resists. Elrond never touched the ring, presumably for the same reason. Moreover, we see several instances where the ring clouds the thoughts of those near it, particularly when they become violent or angry. Boromir loses control of himself temporarily, when his emotions overcome him, and the ring twist him. He regrets it later, but during the event, he isn't aware of it. Aragorn considers it, as well, when Frodo leaves the fellowship. Galadriel makes it clear that if she dared take the ring, she'd lose all sense of self, and from both her and Gandalf's reactions, it would happen almost instantaneously. Elrond clearly knew the risk involved, and knew what would happen if Isildur fought him for the ring. It could have gone very badly, very quickly. Was it a potential mistake? Sure. But hindsight is always 20/20. And from the context of the films, Elrond needs to be pushed in to doing much of anything other than shutting down Rivendell and shuffling his people to the Grey Havens, his only real concern. The second two films only reinforce all these themes. There's nothing wrong with someone disliking the films for any number of reasons. I think he chose some poorly thought out arguments, myself (as there are better ones to make), but to each his own. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Geek Talk & Media
'Why I hate 'Lord of the Rings' '
Top