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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kichwas" data-source="post: 9881782" data-attributes="member: 891">I recently reached this point too, as a result of three things.Seeing a comment in the Daggerheart book about 'only roll when there's consequence', coupled with the tag system of Legends in the Mist, and then suffering through an otherwise good Pathfinder 2e GM who made us roll for EVERYTHING. I felt like if I wanted to breath through my nose needed a die roll, and my mouth a different die roll. When we'd hit a door, we'd roll a whole pile of perception checks, and the 5 or 6 thievery checks to pick a lock one tumbler at a time... and then find we were in an abandoned hallway opening a locked empty closet. Something that just didn't matter.So Daggerheart's advice there was something I read the very same day we had one of those roll-every-last-thing Pathfinder sessions, and then the following week I bought Legends in the Mist and saw a way to do character definition that didn't need numbers, skills, feats, lists of spells, and so on...I feel like, whatever system is in play, I don't want to waste time on wasting time just to run out the clock on the session ending. As a player I want to focus on the things that move the story or the action or both. As a GM I want to only highlight the things that increase player engagement. And on a character sheet I want piles of numbers for things we're not interested in using or doing. Just give me the parts that matter.For some people that might be an old school tRPG. But for me it's the tag system of Legend in the Mist. For me Daggerheart didn't go far enough. After all - first they say to only roll dice when it matters, and then in another section they have an example of a success check where the player is rolling to pick a zero-consequence lock. And the Finesse stat just ends up being used the same way Pathfinder 2E would have used Thievery.Pointlessly rolling an attribute is the same as pointlessly rolling a skill. The problem isn't what you're rolling, but why you're rolling.So I'm now at a stage where I want to shed both sides of that. The little details that don't add actual character definition, and the fussing over the minor non-story / non-action moments.</blockquote>

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