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<blockquote data-quote="ConcreteBuddha" data-source="post: 605223" data-attributes="member: 3139"><p>So what? Sorcerers can <em>cast</em> roughly 15% more spells a day than wizards AND can choose what spells to cast on the fly. That's the important part. If I want, I can cast 12 polymorph others, while the wizard is stuck casting whatever he happened to memorize, regardless of its usefulness to the situation.</p><p></p><p>BTW, hate to break it to you, but most spells are not worth learning. </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Actually I will forget it, as those extra skills are about as useful as the sorcerer's proficiency with simple weapons. Besides, I'm always cross-classing to get Diplomacy, Bluff, Gather Information and Intimidate. Since my Int generally stays at a 10, 12 or 14 for the whole game, all of the knowledge skills don't mean a hill o'beans. I'm already tapped out just trying to max Concentration.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I'm assuming you mean full-round action. Really, it's not so bad. Most of the time, I'm metamagicking buffs. The only time it's ever an issue is when the sorcerer is hasted. I think it all evens out because of the very nature of being able to spontaneously metamagic. That's pretty neat. Not having to exactly memorize your metamagicks means that you won't ever waste a twice-empowered fireball when you really only needed a normal fireball.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>How many metamagic feats and item creation feats do you really need? Aren't the character feats enough? Again, sorcerers aren't like Pokemon trainers. You don't need to catch them all to be effective.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Yup. I have no problem with that. Sorcerers = SPD and spontaneous casting, wizards = SK, item creation and metamagic. Players who want to play sorcerers as if they are wizards should be playing wizards.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>The PHB, under Spellcraft, says:</p><p></p><p>"Prepare a spell from a borrowed spellbook. (Wizard Only) One try per day."</p><p></p><p>We interpreted this to mean that a wizard can only attempt to prepare a spell from a borrowed spellbook once a day, not once a day per spell. Does anyone have any clarification on this?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ConcreteBuddha, post: 605223, member: 3139"] So what? Sorcerers can [i]cast[/i] roughly 15% more spells a day than wizards AND can choose what spells to cast on the fly. That's the important part. If I want, I can cast 12 polymorph others, while the wizard is stuck casting whatever he happened to memorize, regardless of its usefulness to the situation. BTW, hate to break it to you, but most spells are not worth learning. [B] [/B] Actually I will forget it, as those extra skills are about as useful as the sorcerer's proficiency with simple weapons. Besides, I'm always cross-classing to get Diplomacy, Bluff, Gather Information and Intimidate. Since my Int generally stays at a 10, 12 or 14 for the whole game, all of the knowledge skills don't mean a hill o'beans. I'm already tapped out just trying to max Concentration. [B] [/B] I'm assuming you mean full-round action. Really, it's not so bad. Most of the time, I'm metamagicking buffs. The only time it's ever an issue is when the sorcerer is hasted. I think it all evens out because of the very nature of being able to spontaneously metamagic. That's pretty neat. Not having to exactly memorize your metamagicks means that you won't ever waste a twice-empowered fireball when you really only needed a normal fireball. [B] [/B] How many metamagic feats and item creation feats do you really need? Aren't the character feats enough? Again, sorcerers aren't like Pokemon trainers. You don't need to catch them all to be effective. [B] [/B] Yup. I have no problem with that. Sorcerers = SPD and spontaneous casting, wizards = SK, item creation and metamagic. Players who want to play sorcerers as if they are wizards should be playing wizards. [B] [/B] The PHB, under Spellcraft, says: "Prepare a spell from a borrowed spellbook. (Wizard Only) One try per day." We interpreted this to mean that a wizard can only attempt to prepare a spell from a borrowed spellbook once a day, not once a day per spell. Does anyone have any clarification on this? [/QUOTE]
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