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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 605838" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>No, he means he's never bothered with Int higher than 14 for a sorcerer, not a wizard. A sorcerer's high Cha means it's a Good Thing for him to have ranks in Cha-based skills, but since they're all cross-class, he doesn't have skill points left over for Knowledge skills anyway.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Casual observation shouldn't really be able to tell the difference between the casting time of a metamagicked or non-metamagicked spell from a sorcerer. Note the difference between a full-round action (spell goes off immediately, caster is limited to a 5' step) and a one-round casting time (caster spends several seconds chanting and waving arms about, is vulnerable to Concentration checks from any damage incurred for an entire intiative cycle, spell goes off at the start of caster's next action).</p><p></p><p>A wizard casting an Empowered Magic Missile can cast and move 30' (or whatever his speed is).</p><p></p><p>A sorcerer casting an Empowered Magic Missile can cast and take a 5' step.</p><p></p><p>Both spells go off immediately. It's not usually obvious that the sorcerer didn't move further by necessity, rather than choice.</p><p></p><p>A wizard or sorcerer casting Summon Monster III takes noticeably longer - it's six seconds or thereabouts from when he starts casting to when he finishes.</p><p></p><p><em>That</em>, people can pick up on - and generally casting a spell like that in combat will make you the target of everyone who has a vested interest in preventing you completing it!</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 605838, member: 1656"] No, he means he's never bothered with Int higher than 14 for a sorcerer, not a wizard. A sorcerer's high Cha means it's a Good Thing for him to have ranks in Cha-based skills, but since they're all cross-class, he doesn't have skill points left over for Knowledge skills anyway. Casual observation shouldn't really be able to tell the difference between the casting time of a metamagicked or non-metamagicked spell from a sorcerer. Note the difference between a full-round action (spell goes off immediately, caster is limited to a 5' step) and a one-round casting time (caster spends several seconds chanting and waving arms about, is vulnerable to Concentration checks from any damage incurred for an entire intiative cycle, spell goes off at the start of caster's next action). A wizard casting an Empowered Magic Missile can cast and move 30' (or whatever his speed is). A sorcerer casting an Empowered Magic Missile can cast and take a 5' step. Both spells go off immediately. It's not usually obvious that the sorcerer didn't move further by necessity, rather than choice. A wizard or sorcerer casting Summon Monster III takes noticeably longer - it's six seconds or thereabouts from when he starts casting to when he finishes. [i]That[/i], people can pick up on - and generally casting a spell like that in combat will make you the target of everyone who has a vested interest in preventing you completing it! -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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