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Message: <blockquote data-quote="glass" data-source="post: 2498712" data-attributes="member: 12251">Obviously, things are a bit different in the UK: You don't have to carry your licence and proof of insurance with you when you are driving, so a OP's problem wouldn't arise here.But we have our own bane: speed cameras. Most of the counties in England and Wales have been installing them right left and centre for the last few years, because they are a big moneyspinner. Fatal accident statistics have gone up pretty much everywhere <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="(:" title="Smile    (:"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname="(:" />(), except for the few counties that have no speed cameras, where they are down <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="(:" title="Smile    (:"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname="(:" />)).Anyway, in the space of six months, my brother got flashed by three speed cameras. In each case, he was a few (6-8) mph over the limit, and in two of the three, it was in the early hours of the morning when he was on a dual carriageway, with three lanes all to himself. This means he now has 9 points on his licence. 12 points gets you banned, so he now has to spend all his time looking at the speedo rather than out the windscreen. Yep, that a road safety law which actually discourages you from looking where you were going! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> It also means his car insurance premiums have gone through the roof. He was recently quoted nearly £4000 (about $6000) for a Lexus IS200. In the end he managed to cut it down to less than half that, but still, it was a shock.Hope this isn't considered political, but I just wanted to give a counterpoint from 'across the pond'.glass.</blockquote>

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