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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3872576" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>This is a part of why I love gamers too.</p><p></p><p>It is a specific case of a gamers willingness to be playful.</p><p></p><p>Imaginative play begins with some proposition, "Imagine you could fly." Playful people are willing to accept these propositions and run with them to create a shared imaginary environment - a 'play space' - where playful interaction can take place. These propositions don't have to be as direct as propositions like, "I'll be the mommy and you be the daddy.", or "I'll be a cowboy and you be an indian.", but they are almost always there as part of play.</p><p></p><p>In the proposition, "Imagine superman can fly and he catches lois lane at the last moment as she plummets to her death.", the playful nerd is willing to accept the playful part of the proposition 'There exists a flying superhero' implicitly. But in considering the implication, 'He catches lois lane at the last moment as she plummets to her death', he immediately rejects the implications of this, namely that the presumed universe is one where energy and momentum are not conserved, as being inherently more problimatic to concensually play in than the one were a very narrow violation of the natural laws occur that allows for a flying superman. Imagining that superman can fly doesn't lead him to imagine that superman can catch lois lane at the last moment as she plummets to her death, and he rejects the 'play space' as being ill concieved. It's not the request to play that is being denied, but rather the nerd is negotiating the terms of that play space so as to more richly engage in the play. The non-playful person by contrast is going to focus on the playful proposition itself and reject it with a statement like, "People can't actually fly." This rejects the request to play completely.</p><p></p><p>Frankly, people that don't like to 'play' bore me to death. But 'gamers' all love to play, even when they aren't doing so in an organized fashion, and that's why I love gamers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 3872576, member: 4937"] This is a part of why I love gamers too. It is a specific case of a gamers willingness to be playful. Imaginative play begins with some proposition, "Imagine you could fly." Playful people are willing to accept these propositions and run with them to create a shared imaginary environment - a 'play space' - where playful interaction can take place. These propositions don't have to be as direct as propositions like, "I'll be the mommy and you be the daddy.", or "I'll be a cowboy and you be an indian.", but they are almost always there as part of play. In the proposition, "Imagine superman can fly and he catches lois lane at the last moment as she plummets to her death.", the playful nerd is willing to accept the playful part of the proposition 'There exists a flying superhero' implicitly. But in considering the implication, 'He catches lois lane at the last moment as she plummets to her death', he immediately rejects the implications of this, namely that the presumed universe is one where energy and momentum are not conserved, as being inherently more problimatic to concensually play in than the one were a very narrow violation of the natural laws occur that allows for a flying superman. Imagining that superman can fly doesn't lead him to imagine that superman can catch lois lane at the last moment as she plummets to her death, and he rejects the 'play space' as being ill concieved. It's not the request to play that is being denied, but rather the nerd is negotiating the terms of that play space so as to more richly engage in the play. The non-playful person by contrast is going to focus on the playful proposition itself and reject it with a statement like, "People can't actually fly." This rejects the request to play completely. Frankly, people that don't like to 'play' bore me to death. But 'gamers' all love to play, even when they aren't doing so in an organized fashion, and that's why I love gamers. [/QUOTE]
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