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Message: <blockquote data-quote="spectre72" data-source="post: 2392251" data-attributes="member: 18885">I am going to start by saying that not everyone has a LGS to shop at and we have to rely on the internet and mailorder.And you know what, the game still goes on.People still show up with dice, miniatures, rulebooks, ...etc.We get new players all the time, and have a game group in Southern Vermont which numbers over 25 gamers.If a LGS was to open they would only get my business if they deserved it.Decent pricing, good service, and none of the BS which seems to plague Games Shops.I have been way too deeply involved with a couple of different game stores over the last several years either doing demo's for a couple of different companies or as a friend of the owners and I have seen too many of them slit their own wrists and go out of business.I know that they cannot order at the same discounts as the big retailers but that is only the tip of the iceberg.  Many of the individuals who I have seen open game stores try to run them as clubs for their friends instead of businesses, and if you want to survive as a game store it has to be as a business.Perhaps some of the people who opened stores in the Pokemon/Magic CCG craze days need to go back to school and figure out how to keep a business running without selling cardboard or plastic crack to their customers.I am sure there are great LGS out there that deserve our patronage, but could everyone please get off of this crusade to save the LGS since alot of them don't deserve to be saved.They are not a charity, and if they cannot figure out how to stay in business then they should not be in business.Most of the individuals who I have been involved with who have run Gaming Stores opened them for the wrong reasons and in the end this is what caused the store to close.  They were looking to take advantage of a trend (pokemon, magic, mageknight) or they were big time gamers who thought it would be neat to own a game store.  The problem with both types of stores is that they were rarely opened by someone who understood how to run a retail store.I could write pages of stuff that I have watched which is just horrible business practice...Taking money out of the register to take your wife to dinner and not having $$ to pay for your orders which are coming in.Special ordering books for someone and then selling them to one of your friends after already calling the customer who ordered them and telling them they were in..Scheduling a pokemon tournament at the same time you scheduled a product demo with someone who had to drive an hour and a half and didn't notify the demo person of the conflict (happened more than once) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad    :mad:"  data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> Selling MTG cards to 2 people in line, same pack but 2 different prices depending upon how much you like them.  And both people hear what the other paid <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> Ignoring customers while they play games or discuss their campaigns with their friends <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> And the list goes on and on...So I will agree that supporting a FLGS  is a good idea if you play there or they give you good service, pricing, ...etc.Could everyone stop the crusade to support LGS because they should only get your support if they deserve it.If you throw money at one of these bad stores all you are doing is putting a bandaid on a gushing wound, and you could be paying for the owner and his wife to go out to dinner while the store falls apart (like I did more than once :\ )Been there, done that, not doing it again....</blockquote>

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