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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2421256" data-attributes="member: 19675">Just to be clear- I do order stuff online- but only after I have exhausted local options.&nbsp;No, what is unethical is:1) Entering the store to browse while2) knowing full well that you will not buy anything in the store.You are adding to the wear and tear of the shop, taking up time of an employeee, and possibly even damaging the product, all in the full knowlege that you will never buy anything in there.This is different from merely shopping around.Ed Roman Guitars of Las Vegas is one of the worlds most famous guitar shops.&nbsp; They have a no-play policy because people used to come in, try out a guitar, and then order an identical guitar (or go elsewhere) because the one they just tried out was &quot;used.&quot;To use the car example:When I buy a car, I'll take test drives to find out about which kind of car I want.&nbsp; When I decide upon a model, I'll ask questions about the dealerships.&nbsp; THEN I'll start negotiating about price- and the dealers will know that I'm shopping around.The cheaper car does NOT neccessarily win.&nbsp; I'm willing to pay more (and HAVE) for a car from a quality dealership (better service department, late service hours, etc.), or even from one that had more polite staff.And, I'm also willing to walk away from the model and start the process over with a different model of car.But I NEVER go to a dealership to try out a car knowing I will absolutely never buy a car from that dealership.&nbsp; If I don't like them, I don't go back- AND I let them know why and that I'll be telling my friends why.This is real- there are certain dealerships in Texas that don't think black people buy BMW's or Audis, or that we'd buy $30k cars without test drives.&nbsp; Does their attitude change when they find out I'm a lawyer?&nbsp; Sure- but mine doesn't.Service matters, and I reward it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 2421256, member: 19675"] Just to be clear- I do order stuff online- but only after I have exhausted local options. No, what is unethical is: 1) Entering the store to browse [I]while[/I] 2) knowing full well that you will not buy anything in the store. You are adding to the wear and tear of the shop, taking up time of an employeee, and possibly even damaging the product, all in the full knowlege that you will never buy anything in there. This is different from merely shopping around. Ed Roman Guitars of Las Vegas is one of the worlds most famous guitar shops. They have a no-play policy because people used to come in, try out a guitar, and then order an identical guitar (or go elsewhere) because the one they just tried out was "used." To use the car example: When I buy a car, I'll take test drives to find out about which kind of car I want. When I decide upon a model, I'll ask questions about the dealerships. THEN I'll start negotiating about price- and the dealers will know that I'm shopping around. The cheaper car does NOT neccessarily win. I'm willing to pay more (and HAVE) for a car from a quality dealership (better service department, late service hours, etc.), or even from one that had more polite staff. And, I'm also willing to walk away from the model and start the process over with a different model of car. But I NEVER go to a dealership to try out a car knowing I will absolutely never buy a car from that dealership. If I don't like them, I don't go back- AND I let them know why and that I'll be telling my friends why. This is real- there are certain dealerships in Texas that don't think black people buy BMW's or Audis, or that we'd buy $30k cars without test drives. Does their attitude change when they find out I'm a lawyer? Sure- but mine doesn't. Service matters, and I reward it. [/QUOTE]

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