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<blockquote data-quote="freebfrost" data-source="post: 2421974" data-attributes="member: 3713">You say it's unethical.&nbsp; Based on what?&nbsp; Your idea of what is ethical, or what works in the business world?Did I sign a contract with Shopowners, Inc. saying what my consumer behavior is supposed to be?If you are using ethics in the loosest terms, you are equating this behavior as being something societally &quot;bad.&quot;&nbsp; How is this behavior bad per se?Do you really believe that?&nbsp; That Monte Cook, for example, never reads competitor products without the intent to purchase them?In the marketplace, the average consumer is what drives consumer behavior.&nbsp; Because your opinion is different does not make it prevalent in how the business economy works.And you just verified this behavior in this example.Are you paying your neighbor a fair &quot;price&quot; for wasting their time?&nbsp; Does the opportunity cost of your house visit really make up for their lost time and energy spent in selling their house?&nbsp; No, you aren't.&nbsp; But you are trying to cover up your &quot;deceit&quot; by being &quot;good friends&quot; with the neighbors.&nbsp; This isn't about being friendly with the neighbors or the storeowner, this is about the business of selling products.&nbsp; If I see a good book at a gaming store while on vacation, I likely won't buy it just to lug around in my suitcase, but I'll buy it when I get home.&nbsp; I'm not supporting that local store wherever it is, nor am I doing any advertising for it.&nbsp; I doubt I'll ever tell anyone about it.&nbsp; So you advocate me purchasing that book there instead of getting it at home then?&nbsp; The storeowner who didn't get his cut is not a part of the buying equation at that point.&nbsp; They lost my business.&nbsp; His wear and tear is part and parcel of doing business - depreciation.Intentional deceit?&nbsp; I didn't tell the owner &quot;I'm going to buy this today,&quot; and leave the store.&nbsp; I looked at his selections and left to buy elsewhere.&nbsp; Deceit implies active deception -and simply saying that the storeowner is &quot;hoping for my business,&quot;&nbsp; does not imply that I am actively deceiving him.&nbsp; Every business &quot;hopes&quot; for customers.&nbsp; The Shell station hopes I buy their gas, but I bought from BP today.&nbsp; Because I drove through the Shell station parking lot, did I imply that I was buying from them?What resource did I use exactly?&nbsp; The book is still there.&nbsp; The storeowner can still sell it, or if it is damaged, return it for another.&nbsp; There is no loss to the storeowner.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="freebfrost, post: 2421974, member: 3713"] You say it's unethical. Based on what? Your idea of what is ethical, or what works in the business world? Did I sign a contract with Shopowners, Inc. saying what my consumer behavior is supposed to be? If you are using ethics in the loosest terms, you are equating this behavior as being something societally "bad." How is this behavior bad per se? Do you really believe that? That Monte Cook, for example, never reads competitor products without the intent to purchase them? In the marketplace, the average consumer is what drives consumer behavior. Because your opinion is different does not make it prevalent in how the business economy works. And you just verified this behavior in this example. Are you paying your neighbor a fair "price" for wasting their time? Does the opportunity cost of your house visit really make up for their lost time and energy spent in selling their house? No, you aren't. But you are trying to cover up your "deceit" by being "good friends" with the neighbors. This isn't about being friendly with the neighbors or the storeowner, this is about the business of selling products. If I see a good book at a gaming store while on vacation, I likely won't buy it just to lug around in my suitcase, but I'll buy it when I get home. I'm not supporting that local store wherever it is, nor am I doing any advertising for it. I doubt I'll ever tell anyone about it. So you advocate me purchasing that book there instead of getting it at home then? The storeowner who didn't get his cut is not a part of the buying equation at that point. They lost my business. His wear and tear is part and parcel of doing business - depreciation. Intentional deceit? I didn't tell the owner "I'm going to buy this today," and leave the store. I looked at his selections and left to buy elsewhere. Deceit implies active deception -and simply saying that the storeowner is "hoping for my business," does not imply that I am actively deceiving him. Every business "hopes" for customers. The Shell station hopes I buy their gas, but I bought from BP today. Because I drove through the Shell station parking lot, did I imply that I was buying from them? What resource did I use exactly? The book is still there. The storeowner can still sell it, or if it is damaged, return it for another. There is no loss to the storeowner. [/QUOTE]

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