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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 4108769" data-attributes="member: 10177">I don't know, how long have 3E publishers been talking about shrinking sales? 3 years? 4 years? How often have they said this was "industry wide"? I don't know, but it sure seemed like a lot of times.Plus in many of the articles WOTC has published about 4E they talk about "re-energizing" the game's popularity and to draw in new players and such. Why would D&D need to be re-energized, etc... unless it was losing something?As to context, I am talking about increasing its sales, period. What does D&D compete against? I believe the popular perception is it competes against video games and computer games. Probably board games too. Is that factual? I don't know.</blockquote>