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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6250461" data-attributes="member: 87792">You know, if that's what you consider a list of 4e things almost all 4e fans I know would say &quot;Missing the point&quot;.&nbsp; To take two examples, overnight healing might have happened in 4e - but the important part of overnight healing was that fighters recover as fast as spellcasters rather than fighters having to rest up for weeks while spellcasters are ready to go the next morning.&nbsp; Second Wind might have been a thing in 4e - but giving it only to fighters very much changes its position within the game so it doesn't do what it should to satisfy 4e fans, while annoying people who don't want any traces of 4e.&nbsp;And this is what I've noticed time and again about how D&amp;D Next resembles editions of D&amp;D.&nbsp; People who don't like 4e think it resembles 4e.&nbsp; People who don't like 3.5 think it resembles 3.5.&nbsp; People who don't like 2e think it resembles 2e.&nbsp; This is ... not the situation you want to be in.And for the record 4e was, as far as I know, the only edition since the white box not to be plagued by Kender.&nbsp; (And as for 4e's races being boring, the ability to e.g. teleport or turn invisible made 4e races far far more distinctive than any other edition).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6250461, member: 87792"] You know, if that's what you consider a list of 4e things almost all 4e fans I know would say "Missing the point". To take two examples, overnight healing might have happened in 4e - but the important part of overnight healing was that fighters recover as fast as spellcasters rather than fighters having to rest up for weeks while spellcasters are ready to go the next morning. Second Wind might have been a thing in 4e - but giving it only to fighters very much changes its position within the game so it doesn't do what it should to satisfy 4e fans, while annoying people who don't want any traces of 4e. And this is what I've noticed time and again about how D&D Next resembles editions of D&D. People who don't like 4e think it resembles 4e. People who don't like 3.5 think it resembles 3.5. People who don't like 2e think it resembles 2e. This is ... not the situation you want to be in. And for the record 4e was, as far as I know, the only edition since the white box not to be plagued by Kender. (And as for 4e's races being boring, the ability to e.g. teleport or turn invisible made 4e races far far more distinctive than any other edition). [/QUOTE]

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