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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wulfgar76" data-source="post: 6250838" data-attributes="member: 61867">This whole argument rests on the premise that there are two camps: 3e/PF players who love it and hate 4e, and, 4e players that love it and hate 3e/PF – and that each camp is fanatically loyal to their own game, and despises the other.I think these two camps are in the minority of RPG players, but are the loudest voices on message boards. I contend the reality is more complex and nuanced.Anecdotally, all the players I know play and prefer one or the other, but are constantly annoyed by the problems inherent in each respective edition. Their loyalty is certainly not rigid to any edition, and they are mostly open to whatever one the DM wants to play – and are more than willing to give D&D Next a test drive.For my part, I am weary of both editions, and find both of them tiresome to play for different reasons. I suppose I am part part of the target audience that WotC is looking for: a longtime D&D player who is looking for a simpler more fluidly immersive game that still captures the essence of D&D.Incidentally, I began playing/DMing during 2e, and look most fondly on that edition for the experience it delivered.</blockquote>