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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6252245" data-attributes="member: 37579">Again, the ICv2 report covers July - Sept, during which only two Essentials products were released and several traditional 4e products were released. This was the quarter Pathfinder reached 4e, which means it had to be making some progress in gaining prior and/or 4e had to be losing sales. Again, this was all before Essentials really made its mark.&nbsp;You might what to blame Essentials for the fall of 4e, but the decline started much earlier. It doesn't take a year to get a book out, no. It takes three months to get it out&nbsp; a couple months to write and another to edit and layout. But books are scheduled a year in advance. Right now, WotC has an idea what they're releasing in January 2015. Earlier in the edition, prior to them cancelling books left and right, they'd often announce products that would be out the following year. The big GenCon 2010 book was Dark Sun which was announced back at GenCon 2009.This is pretty standard. We know Paizo's releases for 2014 a good year in advance too.&nbsp; Essentials came out in Q3-4 2010 which means it was planned back in 2009, likely the summer before GenCon and prior to Pathfinder even being released.&nbsp;Again, so before they had any competition pulling away sales they were planning to revamp the line.So I'm just meant to take you on your word? Because you got yourself banned and don't want to even skim a site looking for a link. And WotC doesn't ban for no reason. They have the Terms and Conditions on the site and are pretty good at referencing them when they edit a post.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6252245, member: 37579"] Again, the ICv2 report covers July - Sept, during which only two Essentials products were released and several traditional 4e products were released. This was the quarter Pathfinder reached 4e, which means it had to be making some progress in gaining prior and/or 4e had to be losing sales. Again, this was all [U]before[/U] Essentials really made its mark. You might what to blame Essentials for the fall of 4e, but the decline started much earlier. It doesn't take a year to get a book out, no. It takes three months to get it out a couple months to write and another to edit and layout. But books are [U]scheduled[/U] a year in advance. Right now, WotC has an idea what they're releasing in January 2015. Earlier in the edition, prior to them cancelling books left and right, they'd often announce products that would be out the following year. The big GenCon 2010 book was [I]Dark Sun[/I] which was announced back at GenCon 2009. This is pretty standard. We know Paizo's releases for 2014 a good year in advance too. Essentials came out in Q3-4 2010 which means it was planned back in 2009, likely the summer before GenCon and prior to Pathfinder even being released. Again, so before they had any competition pulling away sales they were planning to revamp the line. So I'm just meant to take you on your word? Because you got yourself banned and don't want to even skim a site looking for a link. And WotC doesn't ban for no reason. They have the Terms and Conditions on the site and are pretty good at referencing them when they edit a post. [/QUOTE]

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