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<blockquote data-quote="Lokiare" data-source="post: 6262257" data-attributes="member: 83996">The problem is the things the rules don't cover like role playing, story, world building, etc...etc... are not inherent to that game. So they don't count. You can play any edition of D&amp;D in the forgotten realms, playing the same adventure for instance. That has no bearing on the mechanics. Its the other way around. The mechanics can enhance or degrade the role playing, story, and world building, not the other way around.I'm not beholden to any given rule set. I'm beholden to ideals like:Tactical options on level up and each round of play.One options (class, race, etc...etc...) should not be an obvious better choice than another option under all circumstances.Players should not be punished for wanting to play a specific character concept.The difference between an optimized character and an unoptimized character should not be so great that they can't play at the same table.There are more, but those are the ones that 5E fail on that are on the top of my head.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lokiare, post: 6262257, member: 83996"] The problem is the things the rules don't cover like role playing, story, world building, etc...etc... are not inherent to that game. So they don't count. You can play any edition of D&D in the forgotten realms, playing the same adventure for instance. That has no bearing on the mechanics. Its the other way around. The mechanics can enhance or degrade the role playing, story, and world building, not the other way around. I'm not beholden to any given rule set. I'm beholden to ideals like: Tactical options on level up and each round of play. One options (class, race, etc...etc...) should not be an obvious better choice than another option under all circumstances. Players should not be punished for wanting to play a specific character concept. The difference between an optimized character and an unoptimized character should not be so great that they can't play at the same table. There are more, but those are the ones that 5E fail on that are on the top of my head. [/QUOTE]

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