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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6263359" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>No, I compared it to Gaming, of which WOTC makes up a plurality of the revenue.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Less influence than Gaming. Because it brings in less revenue than Gaming.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Only because you strawmanned me and changed what I said to match what you apparently wanted me to say as opposed to what I actually said.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Please stop. We both know I never said or implied WOTC is Hasbro. So please putting words in my mouth. It's getting really tiresome. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1. Do you agree that Gaming brings in more revenue now than Boys Toys, or another of the other divisions of the four divisions?</p><p>2. Do you agree that WOTC makes a plurality of the revenue for the Gaming division?</p><p></p><p>If you agree with both those, then what are you disputing? And if you disagree, show me how I am wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I didn't say only one was important. Again CUT IT OUT WITH THE STRAWMANNING. Really, if you can't effectively debate this topic without pretending I said things I didn't, then you cannot effectively debate the topic at all.</p><p></p><p>What I said, and what I will repeat, is this: </p><p></p><p>1) Gaming now brings in the most revenue, of the four Hasbro divisions;</p><p>2) WOTC now brings in the most revenue for Gaming, of all the components that make up Gaming;</p><p>3) In terms of components of the various Hasbro divisions, WOTC brings in more revenue than any other particular component that makes up one of the four divisions of Hasbro. </p><p>4) Given the above, WOTC now has a lot more influence over what happens at Hasbro than they used to. More than any other particular component of, for example, Boys Toys (like "Marvel"). More influence than they had back when the old revenue goals were set for D&D that were discussed earlier in this thread. More influence, in fact, than they had when 4e was launched.</p><p></p><p>Is that clear now? I am not saying WOTC brings in the most revenue, nor that they are a majority of anything, nor that they are Hasbro, nor that they control Hasbro, nor that they are the only important component of Hasbro or Gaming, nor any of the stuff you claimed I said.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6263359, member: 2525"] No, I compared it to Gaming, of which WOTC makes up a plurality of the revenue. Less influence than Gaming. Because it brings in less revenue than Gaming. Only because you strawmanned me and changed what I said to match what you apparently wanted me to say as opposed to what I actually said. Please stop. We both know I never said or implied WOTC is Hasbro. So please putting words in my mouth. It's getting really tiresome. 1. Do you agree that Gaming brings in more revenue now than Boys Toys, or another of the other divisions of the four divisions? 2. Do you agree that WOTC makes a plurality of the revenue for the Gaming division? If you agree with both those, then what are you disputing? And if you disagree, show me how I am wrong. I didn't say only one was important. Again CUT IT OUT WITH THE STRAWMANNING. Really, if you can't effectively debate this topic without pretending I said things I didn't, then you cannot effectively debate the topic at all. What I said, and what I will repeat, is this: 1) Gaming now brings in the most revenue, of the four Hasbro divisions; 2) WOTC now brings in the most revenue for Gaming, of all the components that make up Gaming; 3) In terms of components of the various Hasbro divisions, WOTC brings in more revenue than any other particular component that makes up one of the four divisions of Hasbro. 4) Given the above, WOTC now has a lot more influence over what happens at Hasbro than they used to. More than any other particular component of, for example, Boys Toys (like "Marvel"). More influence than they had back when the old revenue goals were set for D&D that were discussed earlier in this thread. More influence, in fact, than they had when 4e was launched. Is that clear now? I am not saying WOTC brings in the most revenue, nor that they are a majority of anything, nor that they are Hasbro, nor that they control Hasbro, nor that they are the only important component of Hasbro or Gaming, nor any of the stuff you claimed I said. [/QUOTE]
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