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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 4861019" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>Uhm, ok.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Uhm sure, if you say so but even a small "skittery" or just plain quick PC has the same troubles with them... a Halfling Rogue, high dex ranger, etc. and that is a function of escalated hit points... not their speed. You see a whack-a-mole is quick, but it usually just takes one good whack.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>were not talking about demons...were talking about kobolds, goblins, etc. and their place in versions of D&D. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>SO doesn't that mean it's even more comedic when a supposed "joke monster" wails our so called hero to a pulp? And thus you agree with what I am saying?</p><p></p><p>As an example... Achilles fights hordes of men with lesser skill than him and slaughters them all, yet he is considered heroic and his story is considered heroic because he did that. No one says well if Achilles had fought a superman and won... then he would've been a hero. </p><p></p><p>Now if one or more of those lesser skilled warriors had slaughtered him or even gave him serious wounds and left him crippled... would he more heroic or less heroic because of this?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Edit: And if you go by the actual myths, Achilles was magically invulnerable on most of his body, so how was hios fighting of normal men any different than the goblin/kobold/rat analogy...at least before 4e?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 4861019, member: 48965"] Uhm, ok. Uhm sure, if you say so but even a small "skittery" or just plain quick PC has the same troubles with them... a Halfling Rogue, high dex ranger, etc. and that is a function of escalated hit points... not their speed. You see a whack-a-mole is quick, but it usually just takes one good whack. were not talking about demons...were talking about kobolds, goblins, etc. and their place in versions of D&D. SO doesn't that mean it's even more comedic when a supposed "joke monster" wails our so called hero to a pulp? And thus you agree with what I am saying? As an example... Achilles fights hordes of men with lesser skill than him and slaughters them all, yet he is considered heroic and his story is considered heroic because he did that. No one says well if Achilles had fought a superman and won... then he would've been a hero. Now if one or more of those lesser skilled warriors had slaughtered him or even gave him serious wounds and left him crippled... would he more heroic or less heroic because of this? Edit: And if you go by the actual myths, Achilles was magically invulnerable on most of his body, so how was hios fighting of normal men any different than the goblin/kobold/rat analogy...at least before 4e? [/QUOTE]
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