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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dragonblade" data-source="post: 4861120" data-attributes="member: 2804">Melee in 4e is faster than in 3e, at least in my experience. A highly involved 3e combat with 5 PCs and a couple appropriate monsters might take an hour to play through 3 rounds. In 4e, I can get through about 6 rounds in 45 minutes with 5 or more monsters even. Its faster, more players get more turns, and its much more fun.Champions on the other hand could take 2-3 hours to run a simple combat with 5 heroes and one villain. Not even in the same ballpark.Also, the self-contained monster stat-blocks and the PC power writeups are a boon to speed of play. Sure, if you compare page counts then the games might be comparable. But in actual play, 4e has consistently proven to be easier, smoother, and quicker than 3.5 play in general. Now thats not true across the board. Levels 1-5 in 3e can be quicker and easier than in 4e. But 3e also becomes an increasingly unplayable trainwreck once you get much past level 11. 4e plays well all the way from 1 to 30.</blockquote>