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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 4861662" data-attributes="member: 957">LOL  So your argument is to misrepresent the opposing view and then establish a false dichotomy between your misrepresentation and playing with friends.  Are you a 3E fan just pretending to like 4E so you can make 4E fans look dumb?Do you even know the difference between "fact" and "opinion"?Why was 3E the "golden age" as Clark Peterson recently put it?  Why was it the "high point in a generation" as Joesph Goodman put it?  Perhaps they should consult with you before they continue their businesses, as clearly they are unaware of your insights.You lose.  If the kind of people one games with finds the very idea of 3E being confusing to be shocking then the freedom to build the character how you want it is much more pleasant.</blockquote>