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<blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 4862009" data-attributes="member: 54846">As far as &quot;kobolds should not be a threat to high level characters&quot;, I can't count the number of times I've seen a kobold barb8/sor4/rogue2 meant to be thrown at high level characters.C'mon now. Both are complex in some fashion.But, I have played Champions. I know a guy who loves Rolemaster, another who loves BattleTech and Rifts. The issue is not &quot;why some might WANT&quot; so much as why it's enjoyed in the first place.I can acknowledge certain people like sushi, but that doesn't mean I can agree that I find sushi tasting good.Apparently Simulationist became a dirty word in this thread or something, but really that's how I see it. 3e is in the simulationist department; the rules are the physics of the world, there's a rule for everything. A lot of people enjoy taking the rules and creating the world with it, to the point of determining what level of druid is necessary per x acre of farmland to increase crop yield by y. I can acknowledge that people like Sim type games, and they would want a game that suits that. That is the opposite of what I want out of a gaming system. But I certainly believe that the simulationist guy has a right to his game, and enjoy it, and I'm not criticizing it. I would never say 3e is not D&amp;D. As long as I don't have to play it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rechan, post: 4862009, member: 54846"] As far as "kobolds should not be a threat to high level characters", I can't count the number of times I've seen a kobold barb8/sor4/rogue2 meant to be thrown at high level characters. C'mon now. Both are complex in some fashion. But, I have played Champions. I know a guy who loves Rolemaster, another who loves BattleTech and Rifts. The issue is not "why some might WANT" so much as why it's enjoyed in the first place. I can acknowledge certain people like sushi, but that doesn't mean I can agree that I find sushi tasting good. Apparently Simulationist became a dirty word in this thread or something, but really that's how I see it. 3e is in the simulationist department; the rules are the physics of the world, there's a rule for everything. A lot of people enjoy taking the rules and creating the world with it, to the point of determining what level of druid is necessary per x acre of farmland to increase crop yield by y. I can acknowledge that people like Sim type games, and they would want a game that suits that. That is the opposite of what I want out of a gaming system. But I certainly believe that the simulationist guy has a right to his game, and enjoy it, and I'm not criticizing it. I would never say 3e is not D&D. As long as I don't have to play it. [/QUOTE]

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