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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 4862661" data-attributes="member: 80487"><p>I think I'm about as "old school" as anyone more uncouth than venerable Mike Mornard (or industrial Iron Man Rick Loomis) -- but the sense of <em>pioneering</em> is in that context ever so much more evocative to me than slavish devotion to text thereby transformed into a merely "old" museum piece.</p><p></p><p>I have seen loads of absurdity from some quarters anathematizing "skills systems" and the like. I was (as far as I or my play-testers knew at the time) an early experimenter in the field of the "narrative" game. OD&D is for me nothing unearthed in a "renaissance" but what I have always refereed even though it was considered (from what I saw) passé 30 years ago -- and at the same time I was an early adopter of RuneQuest and GURPS, and a nearly compulsive collector and reader of every work on which I could get my hands.</p><p></p><p>When AD&Ders sniff about how Dragonborn and Tieflings are This or That (usually knowing even less about This or That than about the races themselves), I just dismiss them as the squares that (Corporation X) Fanboys have ever been.</p><p></p><p>Come on, really: Dragonewts and Deodanths? Been there; done that; got the T-shirt in 1981.</p><p></p><p>I don't have a whole lot of patience for that.</p><p></p><p>But I don't have a lot more for people who insist that Official D&D® should be turned into Something Completely Different.</p><p></p><p>What is this, Sheep and Shopping Status?</p><p></p><p>Hobbit and He-Man -- two great flavors that might taste great together (if that's your thing). Frodo, though, is not all <em>that</em>, and Sauron is no Skeletor.</p><p></p><p>Why is this such a problem?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 4862661, member: 80487"] I think I'm about as "old school" as anyone more uncouth than venerable Mike Mornard (or industrial Iron Man Rick Loomis) -- but the sense of [I]pioneering[/I] is in that context ever so much more evocative to me than slavish devotion to text thereby transformed into a merely "old" museum piece. I have seen loads of absurdity from some quarters anathematizing "skills systems" and the like. I was (as far as I or my play-testers knew at the time) an early experimenter in the field of the "narrative" game. OD&D is for me nothing unearthed in a "renaissance" but what I have always refereed even though it was considered (from what I saw) passé 30 years ago -- and at the same time I was an early adopter of RuneQuest and GURPS, and a nearly compulsive collector and reader of every work on which I could get my hands. When AD&Ders sniff about how Dragonborn and Tieflings are This or That (usually knowing even less about This or That than about the races themselves), I just dismiss them as the squares that (Corporation X) Fanboys have ever been. Come on, really: Dragonewts and Deodanths? Been there; done that; got the T-shirt in 1981. I don't have a whole lot of patience for that. But I don't have a lot more for people who insist that Official D&D® should be turned into Something Completely Different. What is this, Sheep and Shopping Status? Hobbit and He-Man -- two great flavors that might taste great together (if that's your thing). Frodo, though, is not all [I]that[/I], and Sauron is no Skeletor. Why is this such a problem? [/QUOTE]
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