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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 4983597" data-attributes="member: 5834">Completely agree. And would add some powers like Come and Get It make no sense when dealing with things like mindless undead or oozes. But some how these creatures respond to insults and taunts. There is no sense of individualized race that lent some believability to monsters.Then there is power repetition. That really kills your game experience by superimposing the rules. The same encounter powers every fight whether they are needed or not is like throwing ice water on me as a DM. I find it astounding that anyone can defend encounter powers as a rules that easily work into the background. I prefer the paradigm that powers are built upon in previous editions. That allows characters to ramp for a big fight while not overusing powers. Encounter powers require a DM to make up ridiculous reasons why they work every fight regardless of circumstance. This is by design. 4E uses the same model for every type of class and every single prestige class. I like it better too. Rituals were a good idea. But they were so limiting that they proved useless in battle situations. I would say it makes you feel limited. All the games are artificial. But the roles were the same regardless of what class you chose with very little to differentiate say a paladin from a fighter save for a different main statistic.  My friends all are hardcore WoW players as am I. They all feel 4E is far more like an MMORPG than an RPG. Sure, it isn't exactly like WoW. But it is very much like an MMORPG in terms of gameplay and character design.All these folkings pointing out how it is different don't want to point out the similaririties and they are many.The roles are like an MMORPG. With no feasible multiclass capability, you will not see much deviation from the class roles.Tank: This is your fighter and paladins. They hold aggro, which is very MMORPG like.Damage Dealer: These are your strikers. In WoW every class that isn't a tank or healer is a damage dealer.Healer: These are your leaders. They heal and keep the party up. Luckily in D&D 4E they get to throw down a bit to too.Controller: This is more a subfunction of many classes in WoW. The only comparable MMORPG class I can think of is the Enchanter from Everquest.Solos are an example of raid bosses. Weak ones albeit, but still an example of raid bosses.Elites are straight out of WoW.It's obvious that 4E was designed with the MMORPG market in mind. The previous rulesets were not friendly to MMORPG design. This new ruleset should be friendly for MMORPG design while keeping enough of their tabletop gaming base to keep the community lively I imagine.I gotta admit I'd play an MMORPG based on 4E character design. All those powers and abilities would look pretty interesting brought graphically to life whereas bringing to life 3.x or prior editions of DnD in an MMORPG would be very difficult.</blockquote>

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