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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 4984239" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>No, this is not the point I'm making. My point has nothing whatsoever to do with CoGi. It is about encounter based powers in the first place. </p><p></p><p>You are talking about character creation. I am talking about game play. As has been described above, the narrative in actual play MUST be adaptable to the circumstance. Which is fine. But you can't claim that the narrative idea is established when the power is selected and at the same time insist that it is only reasonable to expect to vary the justification as needed. Which is the point I was responding to.</p><p></p><p>Nothing is implicitly "wrong" with it. But, by the same line of thinking nothing is wrong with spending the evening playing poker or Guitar Hero instead of playing D&D. If you want to play D&D, then Guitar Hero is not going to do it for you. If you want to play a role playing game in which the mechanics follow the narrative rather than leading it, then the 4E structure isn't going to do it for you.</p><p></p><p>The difference in prevelance of this structure in 4E as comapred to other editions is quite overwhelming. I don't think a valid claim of anything remotely equitable could be made.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, I'm fine with you prefering it, just as some people would prefer to play GH. I'm just saying it is a difference that makes it a lesser option for many people, just as it makes it better for others.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 4984239, member: 957"] No, this is not the point I'm making. My point has nothing whatsoever to do with CoGi. It is about encounter based powers in the first place. You are talking about character creation. I am talking about game play. As has been described above, the narrative in actual play MUST be adaptable to the circumstance. Which is fine. But you can't claim that the narrative idea is established when the power is selected and at the same time insist that it is only reasonable to expect to vary the justification as needed. Which is the point I was responding to. Nothing is implicitly "wrong" with it. But, by the same line of thinking nothing is wrong with spending the evening playing poker or Guitar Hero instead of playing D&D. If you want to play D&D, then Guitar Hero is not going to do it for you. If you want to play a role playing game in which the mechanics follow the narrative rather than leading it, then the 4E structure isn't going to do it for you. The difference in prevelance of this structure in 4E as comapred to other editions is quite overwhelming. I don't think a valid claim of anything remotely equitable could be made. Again, I'm fine with you prefering it, just as some people would prefer to play GH. I'm just saying it is a difference that makes it a lesser option for many people, just as it makes it better for others. [/QUOTE]
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