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<blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 4984269" data-attributes="member: 43019">I stopped DMing 3e because I found the system created far more work for me than it created fun. Especially if I wanted to present a genuine challenge and have contingencies for the full gamut of options for higher level characters. That said, I bet I could still run it as E6, and I _was_ and could run plenty of d20 OGL type stuff just fine.I stopped playing 3e because no one's running it in any of the four gaming groups I play with... but even before that, I had grown tired of rocket tag syndrome, crazy items and spells, and the general strategy of build optimization. But I'd still be playing if any of the other DMs hadn't dropped 3e, cause I value playing with my friends over little details of a system. And I'm often surprised by people who do attach more signifigance to the system that they'll drop a group over it. I do get it to a certain extent, though. I mean, I'd never stick around to play FATAL, but I'd hope that it's more because of core group dynamics - like you want to roleplay more, or powergame more, or slay more, or whatever more instead of them. Such things often trend a group towards one game system over another, and friction between such feelings often create conflicts between players and/or GMs. Eh.Anyhow, I asked about Pathfinder, to see if anyone else was interested. From what I'd read, it hadn't changed enough that I'd want to DM it, but nobody seemed interested. I suspect it's just one of those things that varies from gaming group and location.So, here's to playing lots of game systems, and everyone enjoying themselves. Frankly, the more systems you get exposure to, the more you can see the strengths and flaws and just house rule your way to freedom.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="keterys, post: 4984269, member: 43019"] I stopped DMing 3e because I found the system created far more work for me than it created fun. Especially if I wanted to present a genuine challenge and have contingencies for the full gamut of options for higher level characters. That said, I bet I could still run it as E6, and I _was_ and could run plenty of d20 OGL type stuff just fine. I stopped playing 3e because no one's running it in any of the four gaming groups I play with... but even before that, I had grown tired of rocket tag syndrome, crazy items and spells, and the general strategy of build optimization. But I'd still be playing if any of the other DMs hadn't dropped 3e, cause I value playing with my friends over little details of a system. And I'm often surprised by people who do attach more signifigance to the system that they'll drop a group over it. I do get it to a certain extent, though. I mean, I'd never stick around to play FATAL, but I'd hope that it's more because of core group dynamics - like you want to roleplay more, or powergame more, or slay more, or whatever more instead of them. Such things often trend a group towards one game system over another, and friction between such feelings often create conflicts between players and/or GMs. Eh. Anyhow, I asked about Pathfinder, to see if anyone else was interested. From what I'd read, it hadn't changed enough that I'd want to DM it, but nobody seemed interested. I suspect it's just one of those things that varies from gaming group and location. So, here's to playing lots of game systems, and everyone enjoying themselves. Frankly, the more systems you get exposure to, the more you can see the strengths and flaws and just house rule your way to freedom. [/QUOTE]

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